that helm seems legit to me, why u so jelly over a few pixels?

im not? im just saying what he has is extremely good. i never said he was good himself or that the gear made him good in ghost v all, but gvg is similar to barb v barb in a sense...

60% gear
30% skill
10% luck

even if u are better than someone, if they out gear u too much, theres nothing u can do. for example, i can beat most people who use gclaws with regular claws and everything else same, from being a better dueler and knowing when/how to set up my attacks, but if someone's 1 ww pass does the same damage as 2 of urs.... its a 1 sided match.

Hehe that jingchen guy has surely funny trolling skills.i even trolled a little but he is gg. Point is that you are a little jelly for sure,but I ask is heavy hit fools claw offhand better than suwayyah chaos+fools weaker faster claw. Sad story but europe doesnt care much about claws so i ask if anyone tried that setup vs paladins (or maybe found that sacrifising good deal of life for some ar dramatically improves the matchup). And how 2 claws work vs shield (do they get blocked at the same time or block animation of 2 frames leave the hit open for the other claw where serious ar can be "magical")...typing on a weird place so might make typing errors,thanks for the answer

1 hard hitting claw + fools fast claw wsm is best for overall pvp

the only time u want a "strong + strong" claw is for mirror matches.

each weapon counts sep, aka damage/ar/mods/etc... all get counted sep PER hit check. so if shield and/or wep block blocks 1 hit, it might not block 2nd one.

If i had zodbug chaos suway I would not care much about more optimising setup,but last info is that it costed 12000+ fg on eu. But that idea with sacrifising like 500 life for ar might make paladins much easier in the way 3 whirls could be probable along with stun lockdown? Or maybe making fools secondary helps in term if block works before deff(chaos fast claws makes block animation then secondary massive ar claw hits more probably surpassing the ar/deff ratio)

They cost 20k named and 25k unnamed on east. They're in no means cheap here either.

As for not using wsm, I would advise against that as having high ar for first hit check is nice. Also since the fools is the faster claw, it let's u get 9 frames traps as well

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 17 2011 11:13am

No,i didnt say not using wsm,but using wsm and having a fools claw heavy and feral/runic chaos. Like his war fist/feral combo. What gets checked first,deff check or shield check.

i dont know... i never bothered cuz i was never able to acquire a cruels/fools good enough to make me give up having a gchaos (308.5 average damage + other mods)

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 17 2011 11:23am

Yeah,makes sense,but what about deff and shield question,does anyone know? I cannot test it,so would like to hear someone that could/can try different claw setup.

Deff and shield,anyone knows before i come home and try to google it up?

im pretty sure defense is applied before shield cuz look at it this way

u dont block unless u are hit, u if u dont get hit, theres no need to block. in order to hit, u need AR.

so defense comes before block