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Jul 31 2009 02:40pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Fri, Jul 31 2009, 04:37pm)
i cannot assist you with this as i am at work, but perhaps someone else here could help you with that

altho honestly, if you read the guide, everything should be explained in detail :/


ill keep reading threw the guide lol ill check back if something doesnt add up in my head :D
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Jul 31 2009 05:20pm
I hear yah white4lfe. I'm new to hybrid sins too and getting alot of misinformation from people. Its hard to filter sometimes but Azn's guide has been crucial for me.
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Jul 31 2009 09:35pm
Dear Bui,
I play in Sc lad, and it's more complicate and expensiv for find nice items I can made an hybrid looks like yours but i m asking something :

Your version :
65FCR Setup
• Helm - 2sin/20fcr/Vis Mod/Res All/Life/2socs Diadem (Ber/Ber)
• Armor - Mage plate Enigma
• Amulet - Storm Hide
• Boots - Shadow Dancers
• Rings - 10fcr/40Life/90 Mana/20str/120AR/11 res all Ring + Raven Frost
• Gloves - Trangs-Oul Gloves
• Belt- Arachnids Mesh or Dungo
• Claws - Glitched Suwayyah Chaos Claw + Feral/Runic Fools claw with 3light sentry, 3 Dragon Flight, 3 Weapon Block (or mind blast)

Mine for now it's test
• Helm - CoA 14dr/-15req/59@/15ias
• Armor - Eni MP
• Amulet - Storm Hide is very awesome, mine is 2sk Assa 17Fcr 14@ 27Light res.
• Boots - Dancers 2/24
• Rings - 10fcr/97Ar/17Str/26Life/8@/19Psn res. + Raven 20
• Gloves - TO Gloves
• Belt- Arachnids Mesh
• Claws - Suwayyah Chaos 3LS 2MB 3DF+ FURY 3LS 2MB 3DF (maybe I can find Fury 3LS 3Venom 2MB)

For fun when I m in pvm : Phoenix or 5LS suwaya sox with 2x15ias/15@ Jewel.

--> With my stuff and if we imagine i can find a nice diadem : 2 sk 20Fcr 30str 44Life 31@ (I took a beautiful object which is on sale in Eurscl at the moment and a very good)
In my assa we have this (the x2 buildstuff) :


For FCR :

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fcr : (setup #1 Coa)
Amu = 17Fcr
Arach = 20Fcr
TO Gloves= 20Fcr
Ring Fcr = 10Fcr = 67 Fcr (65req.) <-------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fcr : (setup #2 Circlet)
Circlet = 20Fcr
Amu = 17Fcr or Arach (i prefer Amu than arach because you can took Dungo)
TO Gloves= 20Fcr
Ring Fcr = 10Fcr = 67 Fcr (65req.) <-------

For FHR :

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
FHR : (setup #1 Coa)
CoA = 30FHR
Shadow Dancer = 30FHR

+Sk FHRx2 (why not? we can try )= 24FHR = 84FHR

+Sc FHR = 5 = 89 FHR (86req. or 48req. it's choice) <-------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
FHR : (setup #2 Circlet)
Shadow D = 30FHR
Verdungo = 10FHR

Sk FHR = 12FHR = 52 FHR (48req.) <-------

For Resis :


-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Res : Fire Cold Light Psn (setup #1 Coa)
CoA =59 59 59 59
Amu =14 14 27 14
TO Gloves= 30
Torch =20 20 20 20
Anni =17 17 17 17

=110 140 123 110 (116req.) <-------

Ring8@19p=118 148 131 129
no need other sc for @ resis
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Res : Fire Cold Light Psn (setup #2 Circlet)
Circlet =31 31 31 31
Amu =14 14 27 14
TO Gloves= 30
Torch =20 20 20 20
Anni =17 17 17 17

=82 112 95 82 Res.(116req.) <------- no 75@

Ring 8@ =90 120 103 90
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here my try, with my stuff, i m asking about 2 things :

-What do you thing about the CoA build and why it's not the best ? (Coa have more Resis/more FHR and with him I don't need a lot of sc 20/5@)
-Why you prefer Arach all time in your different gear situation, verdungo or FHR/STR/LIFE rare can be cool also.

Plz :) Help me for enlightened my assa and how i can update his damages.

thx

This post was edited by MagicGasca on Jul 31 2009 09:51pm
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Jul 31 2009 09:54pm
I can snag that coa question and answer that, :)

Coa +a basic fcr amulet and arach gives very similar stats to a circlet build (although on east the amazing stats on storm hide widen the gap a bit). If the circlet isn't top notch then the gap can become so small that it is negligible. For your situation, I would say a coa works fine, especially because it saves you money on those expensive 20/5 scs that can be used on improved lifers and claws (which can get pretty expensive themselves).

I use to have the mathcraft to back up the difference between coa and circlet, but I got rid of it some time ago :(
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Jul 31 2009 10:08pm
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(although on east the amazing stats on storm hide widen the gap a bit)
--> Sure :) I never see stats on amu looks like storm hide

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mathcraft
--> Sory but I don't understand what it is..

Thx for reply :)
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Jul 31 2009 10:26pm
Quote (MagicGasca @ Fri, Jul 31 2009, 11:35pm)
Dear Bui,
I play in Sc lad, and it's more complicate and expensiv for find nice items I can made an hybrid looks like yours but i m asking something :

Your version :
65FCR Setup
• Helm - 2sin/20fcr/Vis Mod/Res All/Life/2socs Diadem (Ber/Ber)
• Armor - Mage plate Enigma
• Amulet - Storm Hide
• Boots - Shadow Dancers
• Rings - 10fcr/40Life/90 Mana/20str/120AR/11 res all Ring + Raven Frost
• Gloves - Trangs-Oul Gloves
• Belt- Arachnids Mesh or Dungo
• Claws - Glitched Suwayyah Chaos Claw + Feral/Runic Fools claw with 3light sentry, 3 Dragon Flight, 3 Weapon Block (or mind blast)

Mine for now it's test
• Helm - CoA 14dr/-15req/59@/15ias
• Armor - Eni MP
• Amulet - Storm Hide is very awesome, mine is 2sk Assa 17Fcr 14@ 27Light res.
• Boots - Dancers 2/24
• Rings - 10fcr/97Ar/17Str/26Life/8@/19Psn res. + Raven 20
• Gloves - TO Gloves
• Belt- Arachnids Mesh
• Claws - Suwayyah Chaos 3LS 2MB 3DF+ FURY 3LS 2MB 3DF (maybe I can find Fury 3LS 3Venom 2MB)

For fun when I m in pvm : Phoenix or 5LS suwaya sox with 2x15ias/15@ Jewel.

--> With my stuff and if we imagine i can find a nice diadem : 2 sk 20Fcr 30str 44Life 31@ (I took a beautiful object which is on sale in Eurscl at the moment and a very good)
In my assa we have this (the x2 buildstuff) :


For FCR :

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fcr :  (setup #1 Coa)
Amu      = 17Fcr
Arach    = 20Fcr
TO Gloves= 20Fcr
Ring Fcr = 10Fcr = 67 Fcr (65req.) <-------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fcr :  (setup #2 Circlet)
Circlet  = 20Fcr
Amu      = 17Fcr or Arach (i prefer Amu than arach because you can took Dungo)
TO Gloves= 20Fcr
Ring Fcr = 10Fcr = 67 Fcr (65req.) <-------

For FHR :

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
FHR :  (setup #1 Coa)
CoA      = 30FHR
Shadow Dancer = 30FHR

+Sk FHRx2 (why not? we can try )= 24FHR = 84FHR

+Sc FHR  = 5    = 89 FHR (86req. or 48req. it's choice) <-------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
FHR :  (setup #2 Circlet)
Shadow D = 30FHR
Verdungo = 10FHR

Sk FHR  = 12FHR = 52 FHR (48req.) <-------

For Resis :


-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Res :    Fire Cold Light Psn  (setup #1 Coa)
CoA      =59  59  59    59
Amu      =14  14  27    14
TO Gloves=    30
Torch    =20  20  20    20
Anni    =17  17  17    17

        =110  140  123  110 (116req.) <-------

Ring8@19p=118  148  131  129
no need other sc for @ resis
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Res :    Fire Cold Light Psn  (setup #2 Circlet)
Circlet  =31  31  31    31
Amu      =14  14  27    14
TO Gloves=    30
Torch    =20  20  20    20
Anni    =17  17  17    17

        =82  112  95    82  Res.(116req.) <------- no 75@

Ring 8@  =90  120  103  90
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here my try, with my stuff, i m asking about 2 things :

-What do you thing about the CoA build and why it's not the best ? (Coa have more Resis/more FHR and with him I don't need a lot of sc 20/5@)
-Why you prefer Arach all time in your different gear situation, verdungo or FHR/STR/LIFE rare can be cool also.

Plz :) Help me for enlightened my assa and how i can update his damages.

thx


yea coa is fine. its just not my top choice thats all. with coa u'll end up having quite a bit less dr and u wont be able to swap out arach for tgod bm sorb if you need it etc.. but other than that, its not that much of a difference

arach i use in conjucture with shide and is gg on nonladder. for your case dungos + godly 2sin/20fcr/life/res ammy is better
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Jul 31 2009 11:59pm
You have quite a bit less dr when using a coa compared to a circlet/dungo combination? Maybe if you happen to have a visionary/str/life/res/2soc circlet floating around on closed realms..
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Fri, Jul 31 2009, 09:26pm)
yea coa is fine. its just not my top choice thats all. with coa u'll end up having quite a bit less dr and u wont be able to swap out arach for tgod bm sorb if you need it etc.. but other than that, its not that much of a difference

arach i use in conjucture with shide and is gg on nonladder. for your case dungos + godly 2sin/20fcr/life/res ammy is better


Orly?
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Quote (Bryant @ Sat, Aug 1 2009, 02:03am)
Orly?


Quote (xSmithenatorx2 @ Sat, Aug 1 2009, 01:59am)
You have quite a bit less dr when using a coa compared to a circlet/dungo combination?  Maybe if you happen to have a visionary/str/life/res/2soc circlet floating around on closed realms..


opps i said dr. i ment ar lol

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 1 2009 12:55am
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Aug 1 2009 08:27am
Thx for answers :)


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wont be able to swap out arach for tgod
--> Exactly I forget that

Ps : "shide" sory but I don't know this thing.

This post was edited by MagicGasca on Aug 1 2009 08:31am
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