there is a w/s build listed in this guide.
use hoto/ss (bos build) or spirit pb/ss (fade build) when going 102 fcr. there is no reason to use hoto/spirit unless you are doing some low budget pvm build or 174fcr where it is necessary, 102fcr with max block ss is preferred by most w/s sin players, although some like 174 a lot. I would not advise 174fcr unless you are already comfortable on pvp assassin.

[QUOTE=Pilback3s,Feb 16 2011 08:13am]Im pure lighting trapper .. CC

nvm

This post was edited by Zidane on Feb 28 2011 02:01am

this is wat i was looking for, but i need full info!
not just the max bp
i need each break points for the -35 -40 -45 and -50

so, you have dr only from eni + fade on c/c setup?

isnt shadow dancers better on w/s setup than some rare boots?

is the WSM bug as much useful as on a hybsin?

or is it better to go @ 2x gt magic claws?

Is w/s setup that much useful vs bow / barbs?

Is 102 fcr that much useful on a w/s setup?

This post was edited by lixy_59 on Mar 18 2011 03:25pm

tienje isn't around these forums anymore, I used to duel with him a lot so I can answer somewhat.


yes only dr is from enigma+ fade, some players stash ber helm

yes but tienje liked wbands, probably from using them on west and stacking vs pierce or something. it's generally accepted by now that dancers are better as main boots on trappers.

not really useful on trapper because you have 08valk and you can have 40ias base on main claw, so you already have bp for fade. not using wsm bug means you can wsg freely and you can use 174switch in teams if you want. Ive seen some trappers use wsm bug setups because of the claws they had available to them (meaning they couldn't get good gt) or because they had some weird claw setup that self-wsmbugged on switching with their stats (having stats on claw that makes one claw not equip til the other is equipped) but its not something that a trapper should really look for. its alright to wsm bug on trapper if you have claws that work with wsm bug, but its not ideal, high end choice should be 2x gt

yes w/s maxblock setup is much better in individual matchups vs barbs or bowzons, however vs all c/c works better and you do not really have to get hit by barbs and bowas so as long as you can avoid getting hit it doesn't matter much. most trappers do not care about having shield block. c/c trappers still win vs barbs in gm. bowazons in tpk spamming multi is a problem for c/c, thats about it.

102 on c/c or w/s maxblock, you are still trying to stunlock opponents no reason to move lower in fcr. some people liked 174 vita builds but stay away from those unless you already know what you are doing.

i wrote a small guide on that on diii.net, and only you and tienje responded in the thread.

This post was edited by alphasquare on Mar 31 2011 11:00am

maxblock is a musthave if you are going to face good bowy, because you have nrly no chance to win them with c/c

So does the bug claw thing still work?

And according to this thing if I have 2 greater claws I would need 42 additional ias to reach 9 frames?
and only 13 more ias if i get a +10 base claw?

I dont understand why the ammy on w/s setup should be a 12fcr+
Do I fail at maths or we get 107 fcr using a 12+fcr ammy?

circ - 20
ammy - 12
arach - 20
mages - 20
spirit pb - 35
total : 107 ...

the bp is only 102 not 107