you dont loose 900-1200dmg, the max may go down but the min will go up on Diamond so you have to look at the avg. Not sure what you are trying to prove really.

you only get the 50% dr and mb when you have you're shield out, all zons have this, including this build. Only with this build you get the added bonus of having 30% dr with your bow out so you can still shoot and take dmg, no need to switch all the time. How much DR do you have with your bow out...0%?

Im pretty sure your zon cant have 4.1k dmg with Mat faith (maybe with psn dmg) and still have enough stats left over to get your zon to 4.5k life. You would have to have 37x 20 life sc to even come close and if thats the case you are looking at maybe 60% frw with a good pair of boots and cats eye? Thats about half of what you need and if you use titans on your switch it means you have to run back to your stash every time you die or your BO runs out. What do you plan to do if the duel goes long and your BO dies?. And even if you did use a perfect CTA you would have a terrible bo -> no spirit monarch, no +1 skill from coa.

By using a -req ss you would need 133 str
174-133 = 41
41 * 3 *(1.65) = 202 life gained

But you loose 2 skills to bo (61 life lost per BO level = -122 life)

202-122 = 80 life gained
Cool, by going a low str build you gained 80 life, but gave up, 30% res, 15% dr, 30% fhr + 1 skill

Also, Mat faith uses 35 more dex than GMB, so you have less points to spend on Vita because of that as well.

My question for you is have you actually build this zon? or is it just something you came up with in your head because your numbers dont seem to add up to what you are claiming.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Jan 7 2009 10:06pm

This zon that im talkin about has been build n she does 4.1k dmg n 4.5k life n yes i do have alot of 3/xx/20's
and your right your min dmg will go up but your max dmg will drop alot
yes i do go to stash for bo and no you wouldnt last long enough for my bo to run off in a duel
you might have more DR then me with a bow but im sure im not gonna be walkin around unprotected
and the entire point of z V z is not to get hit when u have your bow out.... thats y as soon as u shoot u switch
and if your arrows would even be able to hit me n inflict some dmg i can easily just walk towads u n fury you to death
and lets say u have cta on switch... u wouldnt be abel to do anything but run.... then while u do that i would namelock u n GA
my point is that there r much betters ways to get res n fhr then by using CoA imo i feel its betterfill up your chest with goodies n get creative with by getting
different res tiaras, rings, etc.....

I lost 1.1k max and gain 900 min, so my avg damage only went down 100-200, but i gained an extra frame.

I dont lose life for using diamond faith. I made this build for gmb, but now i use diamond... if i remake for diamond specifically, i gain life because of less req.

You cant hit 4.5k life AND 4.1k pure physical damage with a mat faith, its just not possible without poison or something of the sort.

u have -15 req in ss, meaning u probably use ss all the time, and never a spirit for bo if u do bo. And if u do bo, how do u get 4.5k life with like a level 8-9 bo? Even if ur 100% vita with all 20 life scs, a shit bo level like urs wont let u hit 4.5k unless ur using things like a 12045 lifer and 16060 lifer which gets bo'd unlike forts LPL.

and for any other answers look here.

So u use titan + ss but u run to stash for bo real quick and duel? First off thats bm, second thats a pain in the ass, third, ur bo is gonna be a shitty level like 8-9 with no +all skill gear. Ill laugh if u prebuff with shit like maras to get ur bo up.

It dont sound like u ZvZ much, or at least the right way. I also have titan + ss, but i dont need to bo to use it. If u spam ga at me while im running away, ill block most until ur out of site, then we can have a spam fest which u will lose, cuz ur bo will only last like 1 min- 90 seconds at best. Once its gone, ur just food for me. If u try to run up and fury me to death, my zon WILL out tank urs, simple as that.

who cares if its bm...... n my bo will last longer then yours trust me.
ill bo once before duel starts then ill kill u and when u appear in town and have to run to blood moor to get bod ill go bo
again n when u die again ill do the same thing.... with 4.5k like trust me u wont tank more then i do...
4k fury would rape anything... u run away ill GA n with this builds life u wouldnt last 2 mins or tank shit
y would u say 4.1k dmg 4.5k life is not possible....
thats just stupid... as soon as i get home ill post ss of my zon prove to u 4.1k dmg n 4.5k life is possible lol

btw wat realm u guys from ??? dont say east please lol

East Sc NL, i would love to duel/have a look at your character if you are on that realm

Also, please do post a ss of your zon, gear, character screen etc. I still dont believe that you can have 4.1k physical dmg on a Mat Faith AND also have 4.5k life

Since nobody in this thread wants to duel me, I guess I'll post pics of me vs every zon I meet until I figure out who you guys are...