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Aug 21 2015 07:26am
im really just about done posting here. i kill anything in 1 zeal. i dont need to put LOH on, its not going to be any noticeable increase to my speed in running anything. without life tap there are plenty of things that are going to kill you. have fun going up against a pack of 20+ undead archers, you arent leeching anything. oh i guess you can pop rejuvs, your build will need it.
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Aug 21 2015 07:40am
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im really just about done posting here. i kill anything in 1 zeal. i dont need to put LOH on, its not going to be any noticeable increase to my speed in running anything. without life tap there are plenty of things that are going to kill you. have fun going up against a pack of 20+ undead archers, you arent leeching anything. oh i guess you can pop rejuvs, your build will need it.


My build dont need juv, if played smart ;)
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Aug 21 2015 07:47am
Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 21 2015 02:21pm)
i will lose 10% leech

Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 20 2015 09:31pm)
I dont need the life leech


Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 21 2015 02:21pm)
i will lose open wounds

you already have ow on gores, making ow of draculs completely useless

Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 21 2015 02:21pm)
i gain res i dont need

res that you do need

Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 21 2015 02:21pm)
i gain ias i dont need

ias that you need against decrep
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Aug 21 2015 07:53am
Quote (lilith0 @ Aug 21 2015 09:47am)
you already have ow on gores, making ow of draculs completely useless


res that you do need


ias that you need against decrep


lol, your argument has turned into planning for when youre decrep

gg, nothing else to see here. if you want to play this build correctly then use mine.
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Aug 21 2015 08:15am
depends what you consider fast and what runs you are doing, it's situational.

If it's fast cs clears for dia kills then enigma >

if you're just clearing areas for fun then fort >

and no, LoH isn't necessary

This post was edited by Marieusz on Aug 21 2015 08:15am
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Aug 21 2015 08:33am
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lol, your argument has turned into planning for when youre decrep

gg, nothing else to see here. if you want to play this build correctly then use mine.


Omg..

Ow nn, since its on gores
Res is needed
Ias is needed
Life tap not rly needed (oon last wish setup, ye.. but nn draks then sjnce you already have)

Ur build may work ofcourse, but mine is just as good, maybe even better.

With grief and lw you dont need ar, with death youll need some ar..
Wich makes fort a excellent choice, since it got res amd damage, and even life.

Ur jewelers means you mean res on gear, so ull use res charms, where ar/lifers would be a lot better.

E; fort is cheap, jewelers armor is little more expansive, and imo not neccessary on a pvm build.

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Aug 21 2015 08:38am
Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 21 2015 12:12pm)
youre just completely wrong. loh is trash for this build. when you already kill clone and uber in 10-15 seconds what demon mobs are you having trouble with? dracs has LL, life tap, OW, 15 stats. loh has unneeded FR, unneeded damage to demons, and even with the ias you need to come up with another20 more from armor so that still takes uniques and sets off the table and you have to double ias jewel something.



Don't be upset for other people's opinion and experience.
I agree that, in solo games, you can equip any gloves you want.
Anyway, you can just sit and wait for monsters to die from the pulse damage of holy shock, it takes a couple of seconds.

In full games however, where that kind of char can be fully tested, it's nice to add as many damage as you can. That way you can really compete with hammerdins for overall kiling speed.
I've actually found that a proper dreamer cleans faster than any hammerbot in full games.

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im really just about done posting here. i kill anything in 1 zeal. i dont need to put LOH on, its not going to be any noticeable increase to my speed in running anything. without life tap there are plenty of things that are going to kill you. have fun going up against a pack of 20+ undead archers, you arent leeching anything. oh i guess you can pop rejuvs, your build will need it.

I wonder what is your real experience of the build. In that situation, Confuse is cast, that overrides your Life tap, and that removes any threat from such pack of archers.
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Aug 21 2015 08:39am
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Don't be upset for other people's opinion and experience.
I agree that, in solo games, you can equip any gloves you want.
Anyway, you can just sit and wait for monsters to die from the pulse damage of holy shock, it takes a couple of seconds.

In full games however, where that kind of char can be fully tested, it's nice to add as many damage as you can. That way you can really compete with hammerdins for overall kiling speed.
I've actually found that a proper dreamer cleans faster than any hammerbot in full games.


I wonder what is your real experience of the build. In that situation, Confuse is cast, that overrides your Life tap, and that removes any threat from such pack of archers.

No chance, not a full packet casting kolbot hammerdin
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Aug 21 2015 08:41am
Quote (Marieusz @ Aug 21 2015 03:39pm)
No chance, not a full packet casting kolbot hammerdin



I don't know what a full packet kolbot din is. Last time I checked, I was faster than any bot at hell Chaos sanctuary.
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I don't know what a full packet kolbot din is. Last time I checked, I was faster than any bot at hell Chaos sanctuary.

Exactly

and that means you are using enigma setup? if not they will be on the 2nd seal before you even get to the chaos sanc entrance

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