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Dec 9 2013 02:25am
Quote (eacb @ Dec 9 2013 09:24am)
Thanks for your comment.
As written in part 3, we tried together 4/40/eth/repl with critical and penetrate. Using hl, to have ~80cs. I tried also to add a psn sc... I tried all i guess... But physical dmg are still low, we are not a bowa full of scs using a jav. Javazon stays an elemental char and full sorbers are a pain ...

And yes, add some videos would be great indeed.



Hmmm.. Why?  :cry:


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/e2 and by the way, fury doesn't have a AR check ^^


watt?
isnt that phy dmg from javelin affected by ar? So it doesn't work on standard 'throw' skill conditions? I thought so;/

Quote (eacb @ 9 Dec 2013 09:24)
Thanks for your comment.
As written in part 3, we tried together 4/40/eth/repl with critical and penetrate. Using hl, to have ~80cs. I tried also to add a psn sc... I tried all i guess... But physical dmg are still low, we are not a bowa full of scs using a jav. Javazon stays an elemental char and full sorbers are a pain ...

And yes, add some videos would be great indeed.
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yeah, I know you've tried it
but bm sorbers are like 90% of todays players so having some hidden surprise for them would be nice;)

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Quote (CraZeeY @ 9 Dec 2013 10:14)
Penetrate?[LIST]


Can you penetrate me, m8 ?!?!?!?

Really nice work :D
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Happy birthday!

Quote (mysz15 @ Dec 9 2013 09:39am)
watt?
isnt that phy dmg from javelin affected by ar? So it doesn't work on standard 'throw' skill conditions? I thought so;/



yeah, I know you've tried it
but bm sorbers are like 90% of todays players so having some hidden surprise for them would be nice;)


Nope, I thought so as well but after a bit of research there is no such hidden thing.

If you play privs then there arent so many bm sorbers ^^ Usually it's okay unless you start legit fcing, then people get mad. It's better to have a bit of extra res vs aa blizzers etc ;)

Quote (Soppamies @ Dec 9 2013 09:42am)
Can you penetrate me, m8 ?!?!?!?

Really nice work :D


GieB efge and me do!

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Dec 9 2013 03:37am
Good guide man, I love the custom images. I wonder though, how would one ever hit with a 9 range? Or was that just for reference.

I like the different ideas and versatile setup ideas. If I ever get competitive with javazons again, I'll make sure to take your ideas into consideration, however, I do enjoy being able to kill sorbers without switching chars, gfull is a bitch, so I tend to lean towards darkken's physical stash switch with cruel eth reps, dracs, and phoenix monarch. I get tired of tgods smiters using res lite aura.

THANK YOU for not mentioning jmod in your guide, and instead using jmoc. And explaining why knockback is essential, tired of explaining these things to ignorant easties.

I didn't take time to read the comments past the first page, but here's a few questions that might have been answered.

Do you prefer 6/40 over 5/40 to the point where you would exclusively use 6/40s and 2/2/40/rep javas, or do you just not have enough stash room for the additional javas?

Also, why highlords over cat's eye? I can see the +1 to skills helping dmg, and the 35 lite res is nice, but wouldn't cats eye be a better alternative for the frw, and if you have dex on your fcr ammy, you could even build around some of the dex.
The deadly strike here hardly seems to help if you're going pure lite, and switch chars when you get sorbed.
I'm sure the dex you save makes up for the hp you would have lost with the +1 to battle orders, unless you're concerned about the duration rather than the boost, and 30% more frw is always welcome on a zon.
You could probably have both stashed if you can't let the highlords go.

And also, for easties where natures peace oak charges are bm, might I suggest easties use a dwarf star in this scenario instead?
The +40 life and 15 magic damage reduction seems to have the same pseudo life boosting effect.
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Good guide man, I love the custom images. I wonder though, how would one ever hit with a 9 range? Or was that just for reference.

I like the different ideas and versatile setup ideas. If I ever get competitive with javazons again, I'll make sure to take your ideas into consideration, however, I do enjoy being able to kill sorbers without switching chars, gfull is a bitch, so I tend to lean towards darkken's physical stash switch with cruel eth reps, dracs, and phoenix monarch. I get tired of tgods smiters using res lite aura.

THANK YOU for not mentioning jmod in your guide, and instead using jmoc. And explaining why knockback is essential, tired of explaining these things to ignorant easties.

I didn't take time to read the comments past the first page, but here's a few questions that might have been answered.

Do you prefer 6/40 over 5/40 to the point where you would exclusively use 6/40s and 2/2/40/rep javas, or do you just not have enough stash room for the additional javas?

Also, why highlords over cat's eye? I can see the +1 to skills helping dmg, and the 35 lite res is nice, but wouldn't cats eye be a better alternative for the frw, and if you have dex on your fcr ammy, you could even build around some of the dex.
The deadly strike here hardly seems to help if you're going pure lite, and switch chars when you get sorbed.
I'm sure the dex you save makes up for the hp you would have lost with the +1 to battle orders, unless you're concerned about the duration rather than the boost, and 30% more frw is always welcome on a zon.
You could probably have both stashed if you can't let the highlords go.

And also, for easties where natures peace oak charges are bm, might I suggest easties use a dwarf star in this scenario instead?
The +40 life and 15 magic damage reduction seems to have the same pseudo life boosting effect.


Thanks! That picture is just for reference.

About the javelin part, we both use 6/40's, 2/2/40repl ed and titans.

Cat's Eye is not an option as you can not stat around the dex which makes it utterly useless for a Javazon. This is due to us wanting to keep the fcr bps at all times which is very important. The frw isn't hidden so it wont benefit to the point it beats highlords extra damage and not to mention the bo skill, giving you more life/mana. Cat's Eye on Javazon is not a good idea at all.

I did not know that, is oak charges on hoto/wisp banned as well? Otherwise yes, Dwarf is a great ring to substitute Nature's Peace.

Thanks once again for the comment!

/e a trophy room post of my zon is coming in the near future. I will also try to post videos this week.

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Dec 9 2013 06:01am
bad guide i think becuz it dont include FarCast so Need to Include FarCast For next Guide Will do Nicely

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Thanks! That picture is just for reference.

About the javelin part, we both use 6/40's, 2/2/40repl ed and titans.

Cat's Eye is not an option as you can not stat around the dex which makes it utterly useless for a Javazon. This is due to us wanting to keep the fcr bps at all times which is very important. The frw isn't hidden so it wont benefit to the point it beats highlords extra damage and not to mention the bo skill, giving you more life/mana. Cat's Eye on Javazon is not a good idea at all.

I did not know that, is oak charges on hoto/wisp banned as well? Otherwise yes, Dwarf is a great ring to substitute Nature's Peace.

Thanks once again for the comment!

/e a trophy room post of my zon is coming in the near future. I will also try to post videos this week.


Hey man, glad to see you're a good person.
I half expected a sarcastic answer, but I was pleasantly surprised.

Do you think cats eye isn't even worth stashing? I used to main my cats eye, because I hit enough fcr without it. I didn't, however, have a 99fcr setup.
I was probably more walk oriented than you, I assume if I played a zon as long as one of you, I'd end up making the switch myself. Zon isn't my char of choice.

Yes, all charges from all items are bm on east, this includes all non druid oak summoning, zeal charges on weapons, bash charges on lld barbarian helmets, and even level 1 firebolt charges on rings etc.
Glad to hear you like the dwarf idea.
I'll be waiting for those trophy room pics.
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Hey man, glad to see you're a good person.
I half expected a sarcastic answer, but I was pleasantly surprised.

Do you think cats eye isn't even worth stashing? I used to main my cats eye, because I hit enough fcr without it. I didn't, however, have a 99fcr setup.
I was probably more walk oriented than you, I assume if I played a zon as long as one of you, I'd end up making the switch myself. Zon isn't my char of choice.

Yes, all charges from all items are bm on east, this includes all non druid oak summoning, zeal charges on weapons, bash charges on lld barbarian helmets, and even level 1 firebolt charges on rings etc.
Glad to hear you like the dwarf idea.
I'll be waiting for those trophy room pics.


I also +1 to cats, especially vs necs when every extra frw is needed to outrun these goddamn spirits;) (sometimes it's better to run few yards cuz ama's terrible fcr frames dont ensure any safety when retracting;)
I think they prefer hlord because more tele-oriented playing style,
but I personally like mixing walking and teleporting (that confuses the opponent a lot) so cats definitelly should be mentioned as a valuable alternative.

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