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Jan 21 2013 04:08pm
why you built your pala up on max hs?

to push smite and fana is more effektive than hs + fana => the hs adds some dmg but the skill points doesnt effekt that much than 15% ed you get and even the large amount of combats and +skills push your hs enouph to have a nice % of block ...

your ratings not serious .........
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Jan 21 2013 05:24pm
Any serious and well played hdin will 5-0 any vT or Tv

get ur fact's straight.
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Jan 21 2013 08:31pm
Quote (Ersatzkeks @ Jan 21 2013 02:08pm)
why you built your pala up on max hs?

to push smite and fana is more effektive than hs + fana => the hs adds some dmg but the skill points doesnt effekt that much than 15% ed you get and even the large amount of combats and +skills push your hs enouph to have a nice % of block ...

your ratings not serious .........


For the first part of your post; Read the skill distribution section in full and you will find out why.

Quote (Syr0x @ Jan 21 2013 03:24pm)
Any serious and well played hdin will 5-0 any vT or Tv

get ur fact's straight.


Stereotypical bandwagoner. In no circumstance are they unbeatable on this t/v build. Provided you know how to north smite, fohlock, and break their synch, it is actually quite more simplified. If it was by skillset vs skillset for everyone individually, like everybody seems to think. . . then all the ratings would be 1-5/5 for everything. I'm sure you and everyone else complaining would learn at least one new thing or two if they gave my guide the time of day.
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Jan 21 2013 09:48pm
Not a good guide, in my opinion.

Several faulty choices with regards to equipment. Also, your dueling strategies are severely off target, especially against bowas, bvcs, windys, hammerdins, ghosts, trappers and blizz sorcs..

This post was edited by Ashwin on Jan 21 2013 09:48pm
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Quote (Ashwin @ Jan 21 2013 07:48pm)
Not a good guide, in my opinion.

Several faulty choices with regards to equipment. Also, your dueling strategies are severely off target, especially against bowas, bvcs, windys, hammerdins, ghosts, trappers and blizz sorcs..


Care to explain? Or forever forfeit any sort of legitimacy you might have? Enlighten me.

This post was edited by Nunchakulee321 on Jan 21 2013 09:58pm
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Jan 21 2013 11:35pm
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For the first part of your post; Read the skill distribution section in full and you will find out why.



this calculation depends on the amound of + skills
please show me your calculation which leads you to this result ...
i cant believe that lets say 20 more dmg can rather beat 120% ed when we talk about 750 or more base dmg!

why you have a foh stick with you? do you want to switch for grief or want to switch cta?

This post was edited by Ersatzkeks on Jan 21 2013 11:37pm
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Quote (Ersatzkeks @ Jan 21 2013 09:35pm)
this calculation depends on the amound of + skills
please show me your calculation which leads you to this result ...
i cant believe that lets say 20 more dmg can rather beat 120% ed when we talk about 750 or more base dmg!

why you have a foh stick with you? do you want to switch for grief or want to switch cta?


Given I told you my gear setup and how many skillers I have, I shan't need to do this simple math for you. Just add up the + skills, it's not that hard, lol.

As for the bolded part of your quote, I haven't the slightest clue what you are trying to say. I already provided the formula for smite damage in the Skill Distribution section. Or you could just place the values of both the 20 HS vs 20 Smite in the damage calculator by Incgamer's(dot)com.

As for your last question. . . LOL! Read the guide homie! Section "l" field casting info. I'm not here to hold your hand.
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Jan 22 2013 07:53am
my god, that topic ... that video vt vs dudu

thats too fucking HORRIBLE 1.13 spawns lol


a v/t should never lose once to a dudu, EVER
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Jan 22 2013 09:15am
Quote (Nunchakulee321 @ Jan 22 2013 03:31am)
In no circumstance are they unbeatable on this t/v build.


Ofc they are not unbeatable but is the possibility of killing a hdin in like 1 out of 10 duels reasonable to give it a 3-3.5 / 5 rating instead of 4.5-4.99 / 5 (what it should be) ?

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Provided you know how to north smite, fohlock, and break their synch, it is actually quite more simplified.


North smite - it counters the stomps, yes. But what if the hdin is clever and doesn't tele stomp 24/7 ? What if he teleports in your blind spot or simply boxes you waiting for the stomp chance when you need to get out of the hammer fields ?
Foh lock - I don't exactly know what you mean here. Either you mean holding down the mouse and foh him 48365 times which is pretty much useless since it's ~140+ dmg each hit for a stacked 80/20 hdin who can easily catch you at a foh and either get you down to half of your life or kill you instantly.
Or you mean to foh-stomp a hdin...yeah..foh-stomp a hdin, brilliant idea...
Break their synch - synch hdins = rand hdins so if you are seriously taking those into count well, then it's all talking for iteself.
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Jan 22 2013 03:05pm
Quote (Nunchakulee321 @ Jan 21 2013 10:54pm)
Care to explain? Or forever forfeit any sort of legitimacy you might have? Enlighten me.


1. FOH'ing on switch
2. Phoenix shield is a bad choice
3. Treks/infernos are bad choices
4. Lawbringer should not even be an option
5. I already elaborated on which dueling strategies you got wrong.
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