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#51
Jul 25 2011 12:28pm
Finally a good ghost guide that focuses on physical damage instead of jerking off to having mass ow and venom damage.


Always hated dueling your sins. Wish i still had all my stuff on d2 to face all you guys again. I miss my zon :(
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#52
Jul 25 2011 12:35pm
Its his choice of gear.I would never equip 5 skillers and 10 x life / res small charms on a physical damage ghost.
I play it rather different.Lots of max / ar / life scs

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#53
Jul 25 2011 12:47pm
Quote (quicksand @ Jul 25 2011 02:35pm)
Its his choice of gear.I would never equip 5 skillers and 10 x life / res small charms on a physical damage ghost.
I play it rather different.Lots of max / ar / life scs


I do use 32020s.... against opponents without elemental damage (its listed in guide). i switch out 20/5s for the extra 10x 32020s vs necs, barbs, hdins, etc...

but if you can manage to get all the important breakpoints, while keeping high damage and get max res w/o 20/5s... please tell me how. i would love to know (ps, dont forget anya bug)

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#54
Jul 25 2011 12:59pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 25 2011 08:42am)
TienJe's guide is very detailed, but contains information that is slightly outdated (it was written in 2008). Also, it offers too much "choice" as opposed where new players can experiment and end up messing up their characters when some options are "clear cut" as to what to do for best results

This one is a much more updated guide with the times and offer a higher output of "actual" damage than what he had.

My Guide Stats:
Name: Oni
Lvl 99 Assassin

4.7 life/ 600 mana
~15k WW (fools), 6k+ ww (chaos)
4400 WW damage Max (Chaos), 3300 WW damage Max (Fools) - more physical damage
37% + 33% DS (items) + 23% DS (Mastery) = 78% effective total DS
Max resistance in Hell + 50% DR with Fade.
62% Claw Block
9 FPA trap laying speed with fade (even after arach slow)
65 FCR BP
27 FHR BP (48FHR optional)

TienJe Guide stats:
Name: Namelock
Lvl 92 Assassin

4.1k life/ 600 mana
7130 WW AR
4600Max (Chaos), 3200 WW Damage (Fury) - more poison damage
34% + 33% DS (items) + 23% DS (Mastery) = 75% effective total DS
Max resistance in Hell + 50% DR with Fade.
60% Claw Block
9 FPA trap laying speed with fade (only before arach slow)
65 FCR BP
48 FHR BP


Dave is level 92, you're level 99.
Dave does not have more poison damage than you. He used 2 shadow GCs on his sin. He had more physical damage than your ghost has.
His block is lower because you have more shadow GCs.
He didn't list his stats with his fools claw. His fools claw was an eth self rep runic with ~250 ED.
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#55
Jul 25 2011 01:00pm
Very nice guide, along with your others.

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#56
Jul 25 2011 01:03pm
Quote (Bryant @ Jul 25 2011 02:59pm)
Dave is level 92, you're level 99.
Dave does not have more poison damage than you. He used 2 shadow GCs on his sin. He had more physical damage than your ghost has.
His block is lower because you have more shadow GCs.
He didn't list his stats with his fools claw. His fools claw was an eth self rep runic with ~250 ED.


fair enough...

however, how did he manage to hit 4.6k ww damage on a chaos then w/o more poison damage? 32020s show up as less damage on screen than shadow gcs

and he used res boots instead of dancers so thats -2 more skills... if we both use gchaos (and mine is perf ed) on top of the fact that i use a 40ed/15ias in my helm

how was he able to manage 200 more on screen ww damage than me w/o buffs and such?


btw this is from his guide:

Code
Setup
2 Sin | 20 FCR | 5% life (Jah) | 10 DEX | 8 MAX | 24-45 fire damage | 18 all RES Circlet
Highlords Ammy
10 FCR | 78 AR | 6 life leach | 10 life | 78 mana | 21 LR Ring
248 | 20 Raven Frost Ring
Gothic Plate Enigma Armor
Trang’s Glove
Arachnid's Belt
Imp Shanks Boots (30 FRW | 20 FHR | 18 STR | 49 LR | 35 FR | 22 PR)
Feral Fury (with +3Venom and +3LS) Claw
Ebugged Suwayyah Chaos Claw


This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 25 2011 01:05pm
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#57
Jul 25 2011 01:07pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 25 2011 12:03pm)
fair enough...

however, how did he manage to hit 4.6k ww damage on a chaos then w/o more poison damage? 32020s show up as less damage on screen than shadow gcs

and he used res boots instead of dancers so thats -2 more skills... if we both use gchaos (and mine is perf ed) on top of the fact that i use a 40ed/15ias in my helm

how was he able to manage 200 more on screen ww damage than me w/o buffs and such?


btw this is from his guide:

CodeSetup
2 Sin | 20 FCR | 5% life (Jah) | 10 DEX | 8 MAX | 24-45 fire damage | 18 all RES Circlet
Highlords Ammy
10 FCR | 78 AR | 6 life leach | 10 life | 78 mana | 21 LR Ring
248 | 20 Raven Frost Ring
Gothic Plate Enigma Armor
Trang’s Glove
Arachnid's Belt
Imp Shanks Boots (30 FRW | 20 FHR | 18 STR | 49 LR | 35 FR | 22 PR)
Feral Fury (with +3Venom and +3LS) Claw
Ebugged Suwayyah Chaos Claw


He didn't use 20/5s. Your sin has a lot of 20/5s in it.
Also, what ED is your gchaos? ED on claw gives more damage than ED on equipment.

Edit:

Woops, didn't read your chaos was perf.
K then it must be the charms. If not, then I have no idea because I know exactly what his sin used.

This post was edited by Bryant on Jul 25 2011 01:09pm
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#58
Jul 25 2011 01:17pm
Quote (Bryant @ Jul 25 2011 03:07pm)
He didn't use 20/5s. Your sin has a lot of 20/5s in it.
Also, what ED is your gchaos? ED on claw gives more damage than ED on equipment.

Edit:

Woops, didn't read your chaos was perf.
K then it must be the charms. If not, then I have no idea because I know exactly what his sin used.


i mean understandable that my sin does lose out on some damage from 32020s, as i am required to use 20/5s to keep my max res in hell (after anya glitch). So from the looks of it, he gets ~50% res all give or take from his boots option and helm. That's 10x 20/5s.

I will check my damage when i get home after i try on the 22x 32020s setup that i use for vs non elemental users and let u know via screenshot.

ps. even if that was the case, i would say that my build is more flexible and lets you attain optimal damage output for both vs elementals AND vs physical (ability to swap). His build focuses way too little on life (at level 99, i would estimate him to have around 4.3k), and in a ghost v ghost match (just for comparison's sake), hit and run + ow tactics would end his char

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 25 2011 01:21pm
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#59
Jul 25 2011 01:24pm


Great build Bui Aaron
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#60
Jul 25 2011 01:37pm
I LOVE the format, the guide is helpful and an awesome addition to JSP's guides. This is under my favorite's now, If i decide to remake my ghost sin it will be thanks to you.
Kudos Bui. :love: :D
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