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#51
Oct 14 2011 09:08am
delayed skill(hydra/blizz/foh/xx) castrate = action frame + delay


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i found something about ias+action frames for amazone!

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BOWS

FRAMES  EIAS    IAS
                          WSM  10  WSM  5  WSM  0  WSM -10
-----------------------------------------------------
    7
    6            0        11            6              0
    5            21      42            34            26          13
    4            50      120          102          86          60



CROSSBOWS

FRAMES  EIAS    IAS
                          WSM  10  WSM  0  WSM -10  WSM -40  WSM -60
---------------------------------------------------------------
    11
    10        -9        2
    9            0        11            0
    8          13        29          15              4
    7          29        58          39            23
    6          50      120          86            60              11



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#52
Oct 14 2011 09:12am
Quote (relinquished2 @ Sep 6 2011 09:40am)
Super Smash bros melee example: hitting L/R/z(i think z may work, not sure) jsut before landing from an aerial attack, reduces 'backswing' frames by half ^^


yes z did work for example jigzz nair
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#53
Oct 14 2011 09:18am
Quote (relinquished2 @ 6 Sep 2011 10:40)
Super Smash bros melee example: hitting L/R/z(i think z may work, not sure) jsut before landing from an aerial attack, reduces 'backswing' frames by half ^^


z works. it's more comparable to smash64 anyway, where l-cancelling reduces lag to zero (and not by half).

anyway it's a very simple concept, the action frames are the frames where the move comes out, and afterwards is the cooldown/lag frames (both add up to the total frame animation time). having a faster animation frame is useful when firing spells/teleporting away but holds some drawbacks for telestomping.

This post was edited by Tails chao on Oct 14 2011 09:29am
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#54
Oct 14 2011 09:38am
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 3 2011 05:23am)
With a hack, sure. With human abilities its simply not possible, not at all (involves doing 3 different actions in a row that require mouse aiming, like 5 times per second)
And seeing as blizzard is retarded and left animation handled events to the clientside (oh fucking god) the hackers obviously have much more powerful ways to exploit it, ala TMC



Yep. Probably the most wide and useful thing to pick up from it is the different breakpoints. Because I can't imagine any good applications beyond trangs necros for canceling. We're not Rylai with a 2 second backswing ;)


Do not reveal this.

We do not need more TMC-like stuff :P
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#55
Oct 20 2011 04:08am
str bug >

str bug makes hidden fcr
great gab between visual action frame and real frame = 1e shot missle delay

the faster the missle, the bigger the gab between visual missle location and real missle location


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Missile Row  Vel  MaxVel  Range

arrow                        2    24    24      40
firebolt                      60    20    20      50
icebolt                      61    12    12      50
fireball                      64    20    20      50
guided arrow            88    24    24      128
nova                          92    24    24      13
iceblast                      93    12    12      50
blessedhammer        94    18    30      120
glacialspike                98    16    16      40
lightningbolt            100  30    30      25
teeth                        116  16    16      50
poisonnova              120  12    12      30
bonespear              194  24    24      40
bonespirit                195  12    12      128
lightningfury            208  30    30      25
sentrylightningbolt  528  30    30      10

Range - time of missile existance in frames


what means:
30lightning/20fireball=1.5
a lightning travels 50% faster as a fireball!

range
30*30lightning=900
20*50fireball=1000
1000/900=1.1111
a fireball travels 11% more yards then a lightning!


a delayed lightning is more fun as a delayed bone spirit!
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#56
Oct 20 2011 04:22am
Great job!
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#57
Nov 9 2011 07:08pm
That super wide image made it too hard to read.
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#58
Nov 9 2011 07:54pm
:o I like this
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#59
Nov 9 2011 09:42pm
i remember reading about this stuff long long LONG ago on the basin and some stuff on 101 (that may have been through pm's, idk for sure)

this is a lot more detailed than i recall seeing in one place though, lol.
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#60
Nov 10 2011 10:18am
One thing I don't understand/know is are there reductions of action frames above the maximum FCR for any given character class/skill used?
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