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Mar 3 2011 01:33pm
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mb 20 not needed

Get good at this ancient game and I will value your opinion.

e; actually I probably won't ;/

Rock yo bosy..

This post was edited by Botan on Mar 3 2011 01:34pm
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Mar 3 2011 01:38pm
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Not reading this rage essay. Read first line and stopped. Wof isn't needed, I know both writers of the guides and I'm sure Dave would agree that Wof isn't something that makes or breaks a assassin and I could argue the point its actually a waste of a skill point.

Come @ me bro.

Rock yo bosy..


you can duel fine without wof but imho its a bad build choice to not get 1 wof on *any* pvp sin.
its 1 point. the benefits of being able to mix in wof in duels far exceeds anything that 1 point could get you. it doesn't make or break assassin to have it or not.. but its still much better to have it.
just like wof trappers should have 1 point ls, ls trappers should have 1 point wof. mixing in wof can help in many stunlock situations, heck sometimes you dont even need wof to hit, just laying a wof down may make an opponent move differently to avoid it and allows you to play on different stunlocking tactics with ls.

also I don't think dave had any sins that didn't have both ls+wof on them. >.>
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Mar 3 2011 01:38pm
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Get good at this ancient game and I will value your opinion.

e; actually I probably won't ;/

Rock yo bosy..


LLLLLLLOLLLLL
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Mar 3 2011 01:43pm
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get good pls at this ancient game before posting LLLLLLLOLLLLLLL pls
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get good pls at this ancient game before posting LLLLLLLOLLLLLLL pls


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LLLLLLLOLLLL indeed.
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Mar 3 2011 01:47pm
Quote (Ziecheik @ Mar 3 2011 02:38pm)
you can duel fine without wof but imho its a bad build choice to not get 1 wof on *any* pvp sin.
its 1 point. the benefits of being able to mix in wof in duels far exceeds anything that 1 point could get you. it doesn't make or break assassin to have it or not.. but its still much better to have it.
just like wof trappers should have 1 point ls, ls trappers should have 1 point wof. mixing in wof can help in many stunlock situations, heck sometimes you dont even need wof to hit, just laying a wof down may make an opponent move differently to avoid it and allows you to play on different stunlocking tactics with ls.

also I don't think dave had any sins that didn't have both ls+wof on them. >.>

@first point, I've played a sin for a very long time and having the choice of being able to increase my claw block always feels like a much better choice than pointing wof. Saying it's "much better to have it" is personal opinion and in my opinion nah it's not. Yeah it's 1 point, that can be used elsewhere, in a skill that's actually useful and will be used, not something that is basically purely situational.

@2nd part, I never said he didn't? What's your point?


Wof is too slow and isn't needed, adding your opinion is fine but he's getting attacked for not pointing wof when it's honestly not needed. wof can be used defensively and that's really about it, it's too slow to work against good people on this game with wsg and versus those people I rather have 1% higher wb.

This post was edited by Botan on Mar 3 2011 01:48pm
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Not reading this rage essay. Read first line and stopped. Wof isn't needed, I know both writers of the guides and I'm sure Dave would agree that Wof isn't something that makes or breaks a assassin and I could argue the point its actually a waste of a skill point.

Come @ me bro.

Rock yo bosy..


Its a very useful skill, you cant say its a waste of a skill point :blink:

Quote (Botan @ 3 Mar 2011 21:47)
@first point, I've played a sin for a very long time and having the choice of being able to increase my claw block always feels like a much better choice than pointing wof. Saying it's "much better to have it" is personal opinion and in my opinion nah it's not. Yeah it's 1 point, that can be used elsewhere, in a skill that's actually useful and will be used, not something that is basically purely situational.

@2nd part, I never said he didn't? What's your point?


Wof is too slow and isn't needed, adding your opinion is fine but he's getting attacked for not pointing wof when it's honestly not needed. wof can be used defensively and that's really about it, it's too slow to work against good people on this game with wsg and versus those people I rather have 1% higher wb.


It forces people to wsg much more than ls, and it stuns way better than ls, you cant say no to this (even though wsg will often save you from traps anyway)
And actually wof is faster than ls lol, thats the main idea behind it being better id say (also the fact its wider so cant be avoided like ls lightning)

This post was edited by sevlo on Mar 3 2011 01:51pm
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Its a very useful skill, you cant say its a waste of a skill point :blink:

It's a waste, why can't I say that?


e:

Just read this:
And actually wof is faster than ls lol


your opinion is voided, cya


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Quote (Botan @ 3 Mar 2011 21:51)
It's a waste, why can't I say that?


Because it stuns better than ls, which sometimes proves useful

Quote (Botan @ 3 Mar 2011 21:51)
e:

Just read this:
And actually wof is faster than ls lol


I really feel it fires faster than ls, 2 wofs alrdy stuns more than 5 ls, but perhaps thats the wider area
At least wof is by far more useful than +1% wb (dont know if it does actually add +1% due to diminishing returns)

This post was edited by sevlo on Mar 3 2011 02:04pm
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