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Quote (budiu22 @ Dec 6 2010 05:14pm)
humm
i read that crit strike = double dmg. not automaticly max possible dmg x2

Passive Effect: Grants a chance to do double physical damage with your attacks.

http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/skills/amazon-passive.shtml


Ok, I think it may just be a myth then, maybe ill test it myself but after looking some more i read that some people had tested it and found it to be not true
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Quote (Arelax @ Dec 6 2010 10:19pm)
you know i love u, so heres my constructive criticism

faith diamond does not have more DPS than faith gmb

instead of using mavs belt, you're probably better off using 7x 3frw sc's or 4x 5frw sc's and keeping dungos. if you use 5frw sc's then dungos will add more life, if u use 3frw scs, then its 13life rep/15dr vs. 20 life

bitter brouges will save u from using...lets say 8x 3/5's .. which is 8x 3/3/20's u can use, thats 24max dmg/160 ar, travs add 15-25dmg so with travs you'll actually get more dmg, including min damage. also if you use the 3/5's you'll get 40@ res not 43light/36 cold/26 fire. so it works out to: 5frw, 160ar, 3light res, 11 stats(33 life no bo)  vs.  1 max dmg, 15 min dmg, 4 cold res, 14 fire res, 40 poison res, and ofc the 50mf!!  imo id go travs, or maybe even gores because the ds will increase your avg dmg, plus u get ow, but i guess if u want life/ar go with brogues.

everything else i agree with
idk how u reach that much frw/life combo, those 5frw's must really help. imo 200+ is not needed, but mayb i shuld test it out. - heres a good frw guide if you don't already have it - http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/FasterRunWalk


im putting ur guide in my profile too btw :)


aite but ill be changing it a little cuz i need to add some stuff and what u said make sence since i never did the math to factor travs vs brogues with the sc changes. but i like the 20% frw from the belt cuz the rep will do little in a duel vs a hdin or a nec. dins would kil in 2-3 no mattter wut and necs usually go quite fast on duels unless mb then no way to kill lol

so when i post the final one u can redit the link lol

This post was edited by budiu22 on Dec 6 2010 04:30pm
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Dec 6 2010 04:32pm
WAYYYY to much frw....stick with around 150% and get some charms with 20 life, will be much more beneficial
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Dec 6 2010 04:40pm
Quote (Spartikis @ Dec 7 2010 12:32am)
WAYYYY to much frw....stick with around 150% and get some charms with 20 life, will be much more beneficial


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Quote (CareBear @ Dec 6 2010 06:40pm)
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its called diminishing returns...

check my guide for a graph that will help visualize it.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=15660633&f=87
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nice guide bro b) !
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how are you getting more dps with diamond bow vs gmb? by any analytics i've done, i gain min dmg and stats on items (verdungo life/dr/rep, circ life/res) for a loss of avg dmg when making the switch from gmb to diamond -- even gaining 2skill/20 dex/20 res in a circ (i.e. gaining 4x 3max sc's), i don't think it makes up for the dmg advantage of gmb and extra 40 ed jewel... and i don't like having lower jav throw speed (95 is the highest easy-to-achieve bp)

and, if the item gains were significant in my testing, i personally had better stats with gmb+160/60/life+verdungo+ed/res/etc jewel'd helm (100 ias with armor/amu/glove) -- and i can use gaze (bow dr nice vs other zon teams, also allows phoenix+40 dr for fast throw+nice dmg if vs barb or charge or smite or something) or shako or kira (cold stack) or my 120/45/30 if i choose (i made up the res from fort/circ with high res/stat ring and jewel'd helm)

Plus, i really prefer war travs to rare boots (9x 3max = 27max, war travs 10-25 max -- there's no loss of life or frw because you'd just replace 3/20/20 with 20/5res (or 3/20/5 with 5/5), and the loss of AR doesn't mean much of anything with the 14k AR it'll have anyway). You do lose 5 frw. Then, war travs have 10str/10vit too, so the stat gain is diminished to 11. You built for hotspurs anyway, so i don't know that the str helps that much while the dex will give a little dmg
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/close gonna post the more clean version of this ^.^
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