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Jul 12 2010 07:22am
Quote (Pari @ Jul 12 2010 09:20am)
is that the reason you go max block? just to have more chance vs a ghost sin?

you should beat a bvc or bow on a nb nec anyway and useast is fpk as main tvt so you dont need mb there either


yea but u gain all of like 400-500 life anyways.... i think its better to have an all around safety build. after all, 5k spear while keeping all other bps (and ability to sorb if needed) is fine...

Quote (Tails chao @ Jul 12 2010 09:21am)
If you really want max block, why not be a vit nec with a block swap in stash, rather than the other way around? Melee chars are a joke if you have high block anyway, so sacrificing damage/life etc in block mode is way better than doing it for caster setup.


if i made its specificly max block switch, thats the ONLY setup i'd be able to use if i wanted to have mb

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 12 2010 07:23am
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Jul 12 2010 07:24am
0 life rep
d2pk items
etc

Bad guide



Post this crap on d2pk, not here where it's useless.
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Jul 12 2010 07:24am
Quote (Azn Masta @ 12 Jul 2010 14:22)
yea but u gain all of like 400-500 life anyways.... i think its better to have an all around safety build. after all, 5k spear while keeping all other bps (and ability to sorb if needed) is fine...



if i made its specificly max block switch, thats the ONLY setup i'd be able to use if i wanted to have mb


That's the point, use Vita vs all and have a stash block setup if you want vs ghosts/barbs/bowas etc. I don't think it's really necessary, but it's an option if you want it.

Quote (Azn Masta @ 12 Jul 2010 14:16)
i dare u to duel a good ghost sin with a vita nec and see what happens



stupid east rules consider bone wall bm now (i dont know why)


It's because Bone Wall drops the game. What's stopping anyone from running off 5 screens away and dropping the game before they die and have to re-do?

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Quote (Pari @ Jul 12 2010 01:20pm)
is that the reason you go max block? just to have more chance vs a ghost sin?

you should beat a bvc or bow on a nb nec anyway and useast is fpk as main tvt so you dont need mb there either


I'm not sure you "should win against a bvc anyway". I practically never lose to NB necs, and I think now Eero doesn't either?

This post was edited by FnK on Jul 12 2010 07:27am
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Jul 12 2010 07:30am
Quote (Tails chao @ Jul 12 2010 09:24am)
That's the point, use Vita vs all and have a stash block setup if you want vs ghosts/barbs/bowas etc. I don't think it's really necessary, but it's an option if you want it.



It's because Bone Wall drops the game. What's stopping anyone from running off 5 screens away and dropping the game before they die and have to re-do?


yea but in team duels, if u need to stack res AND have mb, ur out of luck

good call on the drop game thing. i never even took into assumption that someone would resort to that -_-

Quote (drt1245 @ Jul 12 2010 09:24am)
0 life rep
d2pk items
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Bad guide



Post this crap on d2pk, not here where it's useless.


1) life rep is on switch for 40. but if u really need it that bad, u can replace the bk and use 2x fcr rings with life rep. I've tried the hoto setup as well and the loss of life was like... 300 to gain 20 life rep. unless its a super l8z duel, that trade isnt needed. also with this build, the jewels in helm (as opposed to sheals) help you stack a shitload of cold res
2) there is 1 item on the list that is a "d2pk" item... infact, even the helm can be found on east (or at least a similar one can be found - nflgo owns it). and even if u cant get that, a 3/20/2 will suffice. the rest are all easily found on east (as for the ammy, anyone well off enough can get a 2nec/20fcr ammy).
3) hate on me less.

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 12 2010 07:35am
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yea but in team duels, if u need to stack res AND have mb, ur out of luck

good call on the drop game thing. i never even took into assumption that someone would resort to that -_-


ah, I don't really bother with block in team duels, except vs zons sometimes. But, the only res you need for team duels is light (and rarely fire), 20/11s are good for that and it's not like you need to stack vs light anyway.

I can imagine at least 1 person dropping the game if there's a lot of fg on the line. ~~
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Quote (Tails chao @ Jul 12 2010 01:33pm)
ah, I don't really bother with block in team duels, except vs zons sometimes. But, the only res you need for team duels is light (and rarely fire), 20/11s are good for that and it's not like you need to stack vs light anyway.

I can imagine at least 1 person dropping the game if there's a lot of fg on the line. ~~


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Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 12 2010 09:30am)
1) life rep is on switch for 40. but if u really need it that bad, u can replace the bk and use 2x fcr rings with life rep. I've tried the hoto setup as well and the loss of life was like... 300 to gain 20 life rep. unless its a super l8z duel, that trade isnt needed. also with this build, the jewels in helm (as opposed to sheals) help you stack a shitload of cold res


Have fun playing with CTA out.
And you can't do that versus Ghosts/Hybridsins if you want to maintain block through WSG.


Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 12 2010 09:30am)
2) there is 1 item on the list that is a "d2pk" item... the rest are all easily found on east (as for the ammy, anyone well off enough can get a 2nec/20fcr ammy)


Helms:
2 Necromancer/20FCR/30FRW/Life/Resist/2Socs Circlet(2x 7FHR/Res jewels)
2 Necromancer/20FCR/30FRW/Life/2socs Circlet(Jah/Jah)

Rings:
10fcr/15DEX/40 life/90 mana/15 res all Ring
10fcr/15DEX/20STR/15 res all Ring


Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 12 2010 09:30am)
3) hate on me less.


I call bad guides bad when I see them. You're not special.

This post was edited by drt1245 on Jul 12 2010 07:39am
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Quote (FnK @ 12 Jul 2010 15:26)
I'm not sure you "should win against a bvc anyway". I practically never lose to NB necs, and I think now Eero doesn't either?


i highly doubt you will touch a real defwhore
which nb necs have you been dueling? lol
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Jul 12 2010 07:41am
Quote (Pari @ Jul 12 2010 01:39pm)
i highly doubt you will touch a real defwhore
which nb necs have you been dueling? lol


Almost everyone. And yes with 63 you can touch them

Anyway I'm just saying that NB nec vs. barb isn't a walk in the park if the barb uses a good anti-nec setup and plays well

This post was edited by FnK on Jul 12 2010 07:41am
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