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One peice of advice for your necro, not all barbs get raped with iron maiden, in actual fact, i know of one barb make that iron maiden will NOT work on him, lol, My Berserker Barb, not a pvp char, but any1 with brains facing you will definately use this skill when you curse them with iron maiden. Nice guide tho, interesting pvp stratergies, and with that hopefully ppl will learn what too look out for when encountered by this build biggrin.gif
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Sep 27 2006 07:15pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Thu, Sep 28 2006, 01:11am)
One peice of advice for your necro, not all barbs get raped with iron maiden, in actual fact, i know of one barb make that iron maiden will NOT work on him, lol, My Berserker Barb, not a pvp char, but any1 with brains facing you will definately use this skill when you curse them with iron maiden. Nice guide tho, interesting pvp stratergies, and with that hopefully ppl will learn what too look out for when encountered by this build biggrin.gif


Yeah, try to zerk a summon nec... I dare you. Zerk = 0 defense; With guaranteed hits fanat skellies will then proceed to absolutely mutilate you.
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Dude, you forget one thing, yes '0' def vs skellies, only one thing, y take the skellies when you can take the necro, and for the necro to escape death he has to tele, then his minions will be by his side, hmmm, think about the resolve, my berserker does 3.8k dmg in one hit, i know this because i pvp'd barb (well we had a "who has the strongest blow" comp) lol i won hands down, does your necro have that much life??????????????

By the way, i do not Pvp at all, but i am seriously thinking of creating a Barb vs Summonmancer Guide, just out of curiosity and testing, this could be very helpful, and with your guide, it can help the cause of creating a good dueller
vs this build, then there will be one more to be careful of rolleyes.gif, Well this will be Trial and Error.

I am also on USEast, so maybe some strategies are in order

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Sep 27 2006 07:56pm
Credits to trying to theorycraft, but you've never dueled a summoner have you? Their strength is in minion stack. When they tele, their minions tele with them and "Stack" on top of them, making them virtually impossible to namelock legitly. Chances are you'd be dead before you can even manage to lock the necro. And if you do he can just move back behind his minions and/or restack.
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Quote (izParagonzi @ Thu, Sep 28 2006, 01:11am)
One peice of advice for your necro, not all barbs get raped with iron maiden, in actual fact, i know of one barb make that iron maiden will NOT work
on him, lol, My Berserker Barb, not a pvp char, but any1 with brains
facing you will definately use this skill when you curse them with iron
maiden. Nice guide tho, interesting pvp stratergies, and with that
hopefully ppl will learn what too look out for when encountered by this
build:D


hey buddy, there's an easier way around iron maiden. it's called life tap wand
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i liek this guide. its actualy a lot more thurought than the rest. but not worth spenidng a lot on.
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i liek this guide. its actualy a lot more thurought than the rest.  but not worth spenidng a lot  on.


actually compared to my characters, I find it to be very very welfare
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Credits to trying to theorycraft, but you've never dueled a summoner have you? Their strength is in minion stack. When they tele, their minions tele with them and "Stack" on top of them, making them virtually impossible to namelock legitly. Chances are you'd be dead before you can even manage to lock the necro. And if you do he can just move back behind his minions and/or restack.


Actually i have duelled summon necro, not with my new build mind you, my ww made short work of him, combined with dble swing, life tap from lw, and slowed em with doom, lol always a way around em, but I am thinking of a berserker duelling barb, even with the 0 def, he kills skellies with 1hit(obliterates em and shatters because of the cold dmg), so
my theory is possible, and if the necro walks behind skellies, it is easy to leap, come on, use your brains?
"for every action, there is a counter action"

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hey buddy, there's an easier way around iron maiden. it's called life tap wand

Good thought, but berserk is magic damage and does not get life steal properties, and with concentration as a secondary attack, it also has the synergy from berserk to do magic dmg and then you commit suicide. Remember good thought tho

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what fhr bp do you hit and also what are your resists and life/mana
because instead of using 20/5s i was gna use bmanas since i already have them. but if i really dont need the mana and i need the resist then ill go with 20/5s
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Quote (izParagonzi @ Thu, Sep 28 2006, 03:22am)

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hey buddy, there's an easier way around iron maiden. it's called life tap wand

Good
thought, but berserk is magic damage and does not get life steal
properties, and with concentration as a secondary attack, it also has
the synergy from berserk to do magic dmg and then you commit suicide.
Remember good thought tho


No. You know nothing about using a bvc pvp.

Quote (gunitizzy @ Sat, Sep 30 2006, 02:28pm)
what fhr bp do you hit and also what are your resists and life/mana
because
instead of using 20/5s i was gna use bmanas since i already have them.
but if i really dont need the mana and i need the resist then ill go
with 20/5s


I have about 2.5k life and 2k mana; I hate bmanas, but they're a viable alternative to high energy

my resists are maxed with wizzy, and average about 40-60 without wizzy on and without resist scs =\

and fhr isn't that necessary, since if they CAN hit you, it's gonna be a telltale fate, this char is not made to tank, that's what the skeles do.
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