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Jul 19 2006 06:08pm
Quote (fear1115 @ Tue, Jul 18 2006, 01:21am)
I'll most likely take this guide, pretty neat.


Thanks


Nub question: does dex help dodge/evade/avoid n shit? rofl I'm bad at amazon sad.gif

All though I think the life is wayyyyyyyy to low >.< I might get owned by a rat or something, while dueling lol baby.gif



no dex doesnt help dodge, and yes the life is low but its super fast and dodges alot.

This post was edited by BBQ-Bill on Jul 19 2006 06:14pm
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Jul 23 2006 07:01pm
not sure if this has been answered or not...

ok for frw

is there a max or can you just get a lot of charms and run extremely fast(start desy)
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Jul 23 2006 10:37pm
not a bad guide

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Quote (Hobo_dutchbag1 @ Sun, Jul 23 2006, 11:37pm)
not a bad guide


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Jul 30 2006 12:42pm
I like your guide. Same as any bowzon guide but still good info. I think my summoner would pwn this too easy though tongue.gif
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Jul 30 2006 01:18pm
Ok, I'm going to be a little negative with you. I know you spent a long time writing this up and I know how it feels when someone bitches about your guide.

I made a guide in another forum strictly on z v a.

My zon is here http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=3413770&st=0

if you scroll down to the bottom, you can see the stats with bow out. With sheild out, my build has at least 40+ to all resist with minorly stacked cold resist. resist is important for z v a. You can also notice I do 7k damage with 1k life. Using legit charms.

I'll tell you right now passive gcs are bad. Im guessing your build has around what less than 500 life?

penetrade doesn't do much. Get slow missiles.

lightning bolt is a must. Some people said LF is the winner? LF can be blocked so any smiter will rape you.

don't waste a point in strafe. Multi works better.

Your passive skills are messed up.

max evade- you're running for more than 75% of the duel. You wouldn't max that?

max avoid - your chances of winning against a projectile is the highest. Secure it.

get dodge to 50% - Its real simple. 65% or 50%, you're gonna be dead if you get hit by more than 3 times with a ww barb. With your build, I'd say even 1 hit could kill you. All about skills.

your strategy is all off too. You spam multi too much. Multi doesn't track anyone, it costs a lot of mana, AND it does way less damage than ga.

for example, good fire sorcs will tele on you and then spam. Fire is one of the hardest for a bowazon. Lite is second hardest cause they have high es. Blizz isn't easy either. Orbers, you stay in the same spot and name lock them

For hammers, you don't spam multi while they're coming at you. You GA until he gets close and run, ga, run, ga, run, ga. Or else he will kill you 100%. You'd beat most "noob" hammerdins or hammerdins without max block but if you stand still as you suggest, you will die to all godly ones.

Barb... You can't tank a barb. namelock guided? Are you joking? True barb will get hit like 2-3 times but you'd die right after... ga while he is teleing towards you. switch to sheild and walk. LB him and if he's stupid and does a long ww, take out bow and ga. He'd die after 2-3 times of this.

you also forgot to mention you desync at 150 frw.

n2b guide. I don't doubt you're going to kill mf sorcs and mf dins but you're gonna have trouble killing half decent chars with this build.

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Jul 30 2006 01:19pm
lol...i think its clear by now that i cant stand u talking about how good you are with a bowzon...
this guide is absolute trash and ur zon sucked...ur giving advice for bow vs bow? spam multi is ur strat for almost all classes, thats not a real dueler. kid plz delete ur trash ass zon and mods plz lock this lame ass post. if u want a good glass cannon guide, go check out foxnew's
and in the short future i will be putting out a NON-Glass Cannon ZvA guide.
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Jul 30 2006 02:05pm
Forgot a few very vital things.

1.Frw to desynch bp is 150
2. use 3x1-14 fire dmg scs to stun your opponent, this and knockback pretty much leaves them defenseless
3. Slow missle is very effective in bm situations.
4.Harmony and 150 frw is a really neat desynch smile.gif
5.Whistans requires lower str then ss and is also a light sheild.
6.You cant run away from a barb cause your block rate will be reduced, your pretty much screwed vrs them.
7.No mention of eth lacerator on switch? This can cause amp damage and basically gives you another free 100 percent dmg. this being thrown at a namelocked opponent is very deadly.
8.No alternative gear choices? How about gores for the deadly strike? 08 highlords? Grim spurs?
9.Fhr, trapsin comes along and mbs u once ur fucked.

Just a few minor changes
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Jul 30 2006 02:18pm
there is no frw-dsync-breakpoint OMFGAD
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Jul 30 2006 02:53pm
Quote (Als @ Sun, Jul 30 2006, 08:05pm)
Forgot a few very vital things.

1.Frw to desynch bp is 150
2. use 3x1-14 fire dmg scs to stun your opponent, this and knockback pretty much leaves them defenseless
3. Slow missle is very effective in bm situations.
4.Harmony and 150 frw is a really neat desynch smile.gif
5.Whistans requires lower str then ss and is also a light sheild.
6.You cant run away from a barb cause your block rate will be reduced, your pretty much screwed vrs them.
7.No mention of eth lacerator on switch? This can cause amp damage and basically gives you another free 100 percent dmg. this being thrown at a namelocked opponent is very deadly.
8.No alternative gear choices? How about gores for the deadly strike? 08 highlords? Grim spurs?
9.Fhr, trapsin comes along and mbs u once ur fucked.

Just a few minor changes


1. yes
2. look at stats of faith.
3.SM is GM.
4. you can't block with harmony. titans/ss is only way
5.witsans you don't get dr = /
6. yes you can run from a barb. You're only screwed if you face a Godly barb.
7. ur gonna throw lacerators at someone? Then you can't desync. Its a neat glitch but not practical.
8. gore = no. Unless 08 gores. 08 lords = yes. G spurs = no.
9. dodge doesn't revolve around fhr. dodge is always 8 frames. Fhr is useless on a bowa.

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