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Feb 26 2009 01:54pm
Quote (Sladeinflame7 @ Thu, Feb 26 2009, 03:46pm)
Just made frenzy barb everything as you said just with grief pb + lw pb. It really works great, just one question: is it worth changing rings and amu to 2 angelics rings and amu? I will still get ~40% deadly strike and huge ar boost for bosses/champs/uniq.
Btw if my both items got ITD that mean that i hit all single enemies with 95% chance?


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Chance to Hit

100 * AR / (AR + DR) * 2 * alvl / (alvl + dlvl)
AR = Attack Rating; alvl = Level of Attacker; dlvl = Level of Defender; DR = Defense Rating


mods on weapons work for that weapon alone

ITD does not work vs bosses/uniques/champions

I say switching to angelics for vs bosses is worth it if you have a curse like amp or decrepify that will proc on them
otherwise just use battle cry and lower their defense, you'll have planty chance to hit then (i think it is half effectiveness, it wont show on character screen what your cth is but now you can calculate it)
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Feb 26 2009 02:02pm
You know i am killing bosses in matter of seconds, just switching to angelics would be not logical.

So with normal setup i got 6600ar, with angelics combo i got 17500ar. Imo this advantage is huge and it overcomes DS since i will hit more.


This post was edited by Sladeinflame7 on Feb 26 2009 02:02pm
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You know i am killing bosses in matter of seconds, just switching to angelics would be not logical.

So with normal setup i got 6600ar, with angelics combo i got 17500ar. Imo this advantage is huge and it overcomes DS since i will hit more.


i pretty much only do it for baal/diablo
in both cases there is a time lapse between when you kill the last monster and you are able to start attacking the boss... this is your opportunity to switch, its really fast and easy
so, now that time is not an issue...

besides, i've timed it several times, and it is faster to switch to angelics than to just go for it, especially if you have amp/decrep
if im throwing lacerators ill put on the angelics for sure, and even cast battle cry to get stuff started
if my merc has reapers, ill just cast battle cry at the beginning so it is easier for him to get decrep to proc

there isnt much difference if you dont have amp/decrep between switching to angelics and just using battle cry

but one or the other is well worth the effort

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Feb 26 2009 02:15pm
Ok thanks.
But still noone answered my question, does +11000 ar won't help vs single monsters? Imo it should work great.

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Ok thanks.
But still noone answered my question, does +11000 ar won't help vs single monsters? Imo it should work great.


yes, actually i answered that question

use that equation i posted, but set monster defense = 0
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Feb 26 2009 02:35pm
I don't know, this formula is bad or i am doing smthing wrong..

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Chance to Hit

100 * AR / (AR + DR) * 2 * alvl / (alvl + dlvl)
AR = Attack Rating; alvl = Level of Attacker; dlvl = Level of Defender; DR = Defense Rating


Look, when defence is 0, then 100 * AR / (AR + DR) = 100, and other part of formula does not include ar. That mean when def is 0 (IDT) then chance to hit does not depend on attack rating. Formula is bad or when you have ITD, ar is ignored.
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I don't know, this formula is bad or i am doing smthing wrong..



Look, when defence is 0, then 100 * AR / (AR + DR) = 100, and other part of formula does not include ar. That mean when def is 0 (IDT) then chance to hit does not depend on attack rating. Formula is bad or when you have ITD, ar is ignored.


the equation gives you an answer as a percent

for an impossible example, a lvl 9 character that has ITD mod somehow, attacking a lvl 90 monster, will have a 18 and 18/99ths percent chance to hit that monster, regardless of attack rating and monster defense....

its not that hard to figure out, have you taken any algebra at all?
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Quote (MajinKaisa @ Thu, Feb 26 2009, 08:46pm)
the equation gives you an answer as a percent

for an impossible example, a lvl 9 character that has ITD mod somehow, attacking a lvl 90 monster, will have a 18 and 18/99ths percent chance to hit that monster, regardless of attack rating and monster defense....

its not that hard to figure out, have you taken any algebra at all?


You calculated not using AR at all. By that formula if attacker has 100ar or 10000ar it still hit with 18% chance.

That mean when you have ITD, ar does not have any effect on normal monsters. That mean i don't need angelics, since they won't change anything for random mobs.

Ok, thanks man.
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Quote (Sladeinflame7 @ Thu, Feb 26 2009, 04:54pm)
You calculated not using AR at all. By that formula if attacker has 100ar or 10000ar it still hit with 18% chance.

That mean when you have ITD, ar does not have any effect on normal monsters. That mean i don't need angelics, since they won't change anything for random mobs.

Ok, thanks man.


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