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Apr 24 2009 05:23am
Quote (lims101 @ Fri, Apr 24 2009, 01:04am)
Looking at your "As of now, I currently hold #1 spot for sin vs sin on D2GM, D2duel, EzPk, Postabout. And For All Class vs all Class ladders, I hope #1 spot in D2GM, and D2Duel."

I would just like to point out that the "gm" rules in d2 have been tailored for sins. You are allowed to fade and sorb/stack. Yes, bvcs can use nat res but they don't get DR. It is also not advantageous to max nat res on a barb but it always is on a sin. So you say, but it's a skill I should be able to use whatever skill I want. Then the nec says, what about vives? What about skeles? What about decrept? The zon says, what about slow missile? I also find it unfair that a druid can have x wolves + a bear, whereas necs can ONLY have a golem. I would like to see necs being able to use as many summons as druids because I consider a bear to do roughly the same thing as a clay golem.

I also think that the rules applying to cold sorcs, as in, if you use the allowed 1 stack item you may not use cold absorb or max resistances, should be applied for psn necs. So you shouldn't be able to use stack/max res and 75% psn length red. I know psn necs aren't a really "high tier" character, but it really annoys me when I'm dueling and ppl claim is gm.

Not taking anything away from sins, dueling with a sin takes a lot a skill, I just think that some changes need to be made.

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Don't know about you but I'd much rather have a level 40 battle orders than level 40 fade...

Necros have magic damage and druids have physical/cold? Not to mention...both the druid's main spells are close range?

Zons have dodges and crazy bow skills...I want dodges on my sin...

The rules for gm dueling haven't been tailored around sins, sins are tailored around gm dueling.

The problem with a lot of the other skills you mentioned (particularly the necro's decreptify) is that they can shutdown entire builds with the push of a button.
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Apr 24 2009 05:55am
Quote (sylvannos @ Fri, Apr 24 2009, 09:23pm)
Don't know about you but I'd much rather have a level 40 battle orders than level 40 fade...

Necros have magic damage and druids have physical/cold? Not to mention...both the druid's main spells are close range?

Zons have dodges and crazy bow skills...I want dodges on my sin...

The rules for gm dueling haven't been tailored around sins, sins are tailored around gm dueling.

The problem with a lot of the other skills you mentioned (particularly the necro's decreptify) is that they can shutdown entire builds with the push of a button.


The bold statement is redundant.

There are many skills that you would rather have in place of another, that doesn't prove anything. My point about fade was that it can be used in conjunction with stack/sorb, making elemental characters, especially cause sins have claw block, and also characters physical, because of hidden DR bonus, MUCH weaker.

Druids also have a much higher average dmg and life. The cold dmg is an added bonus because it not only forces the opponent to wear an item with the CBF mod, or waste a socket with a cham rune, it slows you to a point that isn't worth dueling if you don't.

Sins don't need dodges, they have ridiculous fhr BPs.

75% PLR can also shut down a psn necs build completely, yet it is legal...

MB and DR can almost entirely shut down a zons build, yet it is legal...

Desynch completely deceives you, to a point where you have to predict where the actually character is, yet it is legal...

And so on.

Whatever, I'm not trying to take over this thread, just making a point about the "I'm the best d2 player ever comment". I'll start a thread in the strategies forum and we can discuss it further there.


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Apr 24 2009 06:03am
Quote (lims101 @ Fri, 24 Apr 2009, 14:55)
The bold statement is redundant.

There are many skills that you would rather have in place of another, that doesn't prove anything. My point about fade was that it can be used in conjunction with stack/sorb, making elemental characters, especially cause sins have claw block, and also characters physical, because of hidden DR bonus, MUCH weaker.

Druids also have a much higher average dmg and life. The cold dmg is an added bonus because it not only forces the opponent to wear an item with the CBF mod, or waste a socket with a cham rune, it slows you to a point that isn't worth dueling if you don't.

Sins don't need dodges, they have ridiculous fhr BPs.

75% PLR can also shut down a psn necs build completely, yet it is legal...

MB and DR can almost entirely shut down a zons build, yet it is legal...

Desynch completely deceives you, to a point where you have to predict where the actually character is, yet it is legal...

And so on.

Whatever, I'm not trying to take over this thread, just making a point about the "I'm the best d2 player ever comment". I'll start a thread in the strategies forum and we can discuss it further there.


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Apr 24 2009 06:07am
Quote (lims101 @ Fri, Apr 24 2009, 04:55am)
The bold statement is redundant.

There are many skills that you would rather have in place of another, that doesn't prove anything. My point about fade was that it can be used in conjunction with stack/sorb, making elemental characters, especially cause sins have claw block, and also characters physical, because of hidden DR bonus, MUCH weaker.

Druids also have a much higher average dmg and life. The cold dmg is an added bonus because it not only forces the opponent to wear an item with the CBF mod, or waste a socket with a cham rune, it slows you to a point that isn't worth dueling if you don't.

Sins don't need dodges, they have ridiculous fhr BPs.

75% PLR can also shut down a psn necs build completely, yet it is legal...

MB and DR can almost entirely shut down a zons build, yet it is legal...

Desynch completely deceives you, to a point where you have to predict where the actually character is, yet it is legal...

And so on.

Whatever, I'm not trying to take over this thread, just making a point about the "I'm the best d2 player ever comment". I'll start a thread in the strategies forum and we can discuss it further there.


Yah I doubt he's "#1 Dueler in diablo 2," but I don't think it's fair to say gm rules are there to benefit assassins.

Don't forget that fade gives resistance, so it can help with that stack. If you have too much stack, you are not following the rules of gm duels. Nor are you following the rules if you have stack and sorb. What fade does is it makes it so you have to focus less on getting resistances from items, and the same holds true with dr.

Necro's damage is magical. There is a crafting recipe that gives magic resistance, and that's it. Druid's need the life and summons. One of the biggest problems with revives and skeletons is that they honestly slow down the duel...if the necro has to go out and kill monsters and then go back to town etc. etc...it's practically prebuffing.

Dodges are even comparable to good fhr...that's like saying having good fhr makes up for having 0% block...

Desynch...eh:

The fact is each of the classes have their own strengths and weaknesses. The only way to make a pvp sin really, is with gm pk in mind. BM sin is pretty much an nk'ing tg'ing trapper...
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Thanks for your vauable input.
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This post was edited by lims101 on Apr 24 2009 08:40am
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Ok so I have a hybrid, I gotta remake her (better stronger faster) after i purchase some upgrades, but with her i have a problem:

top notch necros

They do the weapon switch glitch that really negates any stunning I try so while I am stunning them...they are bone spearing me to death

I guess the best medicine for them is defense...any other tips?
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