Ai only mf for lld circlets.. and mostly gamble enyway. You can gamble runes Thats fucking awesome!!1

Goodjob Bob, this would go perfect with my guide. I should add the link to it. Although you did leave some stuff out.. You're way of stun locking like the above isnt as effective, and can be escaped properly. If you need another video how to properly stunlock, I'll gladly help you do so. If not, Sorry for trying to help ya.

Its just what I find more effective, from my 2 years of experience with a wwsin, Im pretty sure I know the most effective ways.

Anyways, talk to me on msn if you get interested, I'll be hearing from you.

This post was edited by SeeD on May 15 2006 09:38am

Ive spoken with SeeD, main thing was bout trap-locking.. I didnt really agree with what he said so I ill leave it at that; Im not saying he was wrong though, it comes to duelling style.

The next thing was about claw block. After GIFF pointed on the 2-frame claw block, I did some testing and concluded that I was wrong. Claw block operates at the same frames as normal block does, it can also be faster with the proper amount of FBR (the same bp's as normal blocking). SeeD disagreed and showed me some things that came straight out of a .mpq file. I dont get shit of what was in there, but according to him it proves that claw block operates at 2 frames.

I ofcourse dont believe that ^__^ So I did some video-related research. I recorded the game with FRAPS at 25 frames/sec. After that I checked the video's frame by frame, looking for animation starts and animation ends. To show you that its possible ill give you an example of normal blocking; wich takes 5 frames with 0% FBR (this info is known to be true).



As you can see, there is a point where the animation starts, and where it has ended. With claw-block those points are the following:
= Start

= 1st after End

Now, lets take a look at the actual blocking;

= Claw Block with 0% FBR

= Claw Block with 86% FBR

Now, getting FBR on a sin is basically impossible, so you always block with 0% FBR. Wich clearly looks like a 5-frame thing to me, not 2-frame.

I hope I prooved my point this way.

Could u reply my questions please Cuz im buying some claws now



This post was edited by ragnaroks on May 15 2006 01:10pm

wow, just wow!

In wich university did you study: Diablo 2 game mecanics

Sorry ragnaroks, completely missed you.
That claw hits 4frame WW yes. Greater Talon = Runic Talon (-30) yes.
If you want to hit 9frame traps without using valk and using such a fools as default, you need to use the following;

Runic Talon / Greater Talon Fools (socketed with 1 Shael or IAS jewel) + Chaos Runic + Helm, socketed with 2x 15% IAS jewel.

Without the use of highlords or cats, this is the only possible way.



Thanks, sometimes I get carried away.... now Im going to kick some real life kittens or w/e to reduce my nerd-ness. =(

This post was edited by xepolite on May 15 2006 01:09pm

But it says on bnet its [-30] U sure? Stupid bnet miscalculation ?
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/exceptional/katars.shtml

Edit; how about:
I got 2 sox at my greater fools talon
1 sox at my helm

So dual sheal @ greater talons and 1 ias jewel on my helm for trap and ww frame?

This post was edited by ragnaroks on May 15 2006 01:08pm

Shit, sorry, blade talon, greater talon.. its confusing lol. You're right, Greater Talon = Runic.

Yes, 2x shael in the claw and 1 IAS jewel in your helm would do the trick (40+15 = 55 > 42).. but you loose OW =(

This post was edited by xepolite on May 15 2006 01:11pm

So in the end a 15 ias jewel one the helm and using chaos runic (primary claw) and fools greater talons (nef / um) as secundairy claws reaches both frame right?
Just to make sure im correct or not
I also got 50 fhr frame and 70 fcr for my ghost sin on ladder (3.8k life )

Would had send u some fg for this awesome guide and tips too bad ur 90% warn (if u get rid of it ill be happy to send u some )

Calculation;
35 (chaos) + 15 (helm) = 50 > 42

Since both weapon has speed of runic talons?

Think im almost fully understanding this cant belive it.

This post was edited by ragnaroks on May 15 2006 01:16pm