Finally someone who knows what they're talking about, nice guide.

well done son!

err.. nevermind, some double posts

This post was edited by Ongeboren on Jun 12 2006 06:45am

that's pretty much so, I like the guide

just a question : would I do fine with the 86% Fhr BP or is the 152 % Better ?

and in NvN.. isn't a Jah'd 3 PB Darkforce better than a Spirit ?

oh, yes i'm goin to lose the fhr then but still.. ?
oh, and please state all the fhr/fcr breakpoints that u recommend the different kinds of build

For any build, 86 FHR is just fine. The only thing I do not like about it, is it has the tendency to lock up like 56. 152FHR is 1 frame faster, and does not have this problem. I highly suggest 152FHR for NvN.

In all honesty, to build a "nec head" build, you need to build around the head in order to make any progress. I personally don't like nec head builds. Spirit is by far a better choice, yes you lose 1 skill. So what? You can make that up in plenty other places. With nec head builds you will most likely be using alot of FHR charms. Why use FHR when you can use Lifers? Here's just a quick "nec head" build. (I'll use a jah'd DF for example)

DF (30 FCR)
Scirc (20 FCR)
Arach (20 FCR)
2/20/2 (20 FCR. 40 FHR)
Hoto (40 FCR)
Bfists (30 FHR)
2x Soj/Bk
Gspurs (20 FHR)

So far thats 125 FCR, and 90 FHR.

You'll need 62 FHR from charms alone. Granted you lose about 20 life from switching from a Jah'd DF to a Spirit. You gain 5 FCR, 55 FHR, Mana. Need I say more? Spirit is an insane shield IMHO.



I agree, but the main thing you need to remember on JSP, is 90% of people here are Non ladder. But, I do try to give a ladder setup. It's quite easy to make a nec on ladder. I have just recently done this. (Basically the same setup, except I'm using 1 more FHR GC )



There was a post about this somewhere around page 3 or 4.



This post was edited by PIB-Apoc on Jun 12 2006 09:01am

hm; I was planning it to be ladder, so here's my choice then (i won't use heads kk )

-necro circ : 2/20 with life and dex (if i can find one with resists it would be even better)

- ammy : some crafted one with str/fcr/life/+2 all
- rings: fcr/life/dex + 1 soj
- Hoto + Spirit
- Bloodfists (most likely ,since I'll have enuf fcr already)
- Trecks

so I will have the 86 fhr and won't need fhr gc's, so I'll be able to use only 30-40 lifers.

the other charms will be most likely 20/x resists


i'll also add enuf dexterity, so that with SS (maybe Eld'd) i'll be able to reach max block for equip change vs barbs/sins



any good ?

Very very nice. Only problem though, even with an eld'd SS, you still need 150+ dex to hit max block. If your going to use it JUST for blocking. Go with an eld'd homunc. Only reason I suggest SS, 50% DR. Helps vs any melee and windys.

Just make sure your amulet has 15+ FCR. PM me bout that. I think I have an extra on ladder.

For the ring, go with a BK instead of FCR ring. (You gain more life with it belive it or not. Even after dropping ~20 pts dex from just the ring). Your already well over the 125 breakpoint for FCR. And there is no need for SOJs. (~1k mana w/o them)

I just came up with an Idea :
instead of using arach, a necro can use a crafted belt/rare belt with following mods :

24 Fhr
strenght
Mass Life
resists

40 hoto + 35 spirit + 20 Circ + Ring + 20 fcr Ammy (or one more ring and 10 fcr ammy ) 125 fcr.
this will give u more life, absolutely more (having in mind that u use 2 x Dex/Life Fcr rings and will save u stat points.)
+ the fact that it also saves fhr skillers

Sup Apoc.
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That works just fine. You do however lose the ability to change your gear a bit. Your stuck on exactly 125 fcr. If anything, go for a 10fcr/24fhr/str/life/res belt. (they do spawn, i'm a happy owner of one ) That way you have some room to switch up gear if need be. (Mainly rings)


Sup mike. Hit me up in game fool!

Btw to anybody reading this!

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