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Jul 7 2008 02:45pm
Quote (ScytheReaper @ Mon, Jul 7 2008, 06:44pm)
63 fcr is never really needed unless you want it to deal with 200 fcr fb sorcs.


u need it vs good sorc/nec players
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Jul 7 2008 08:04pm
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dont like 39dr vs smiters /vts (especially on eunl where everybody uses exile and bug belt with massive slow ...)


the guide was East/D2PK Oriented. Obviously you'd want to even the odds a bit using your own realms gear.

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btw do u ever use 63fcr? .... u need it vs good sorc/nec players 


not really. only when 1v1'ing gm and i want to try tricks

i don't think you really need 63 fcr, since if the duel is dependant on chasing them down like that, they're probably defensive whores.

i prefer to use widow and save myself the effort.

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Jul 8 2008 01:57pm
Gg guide, gave me tips on a barb, even though i have a BvA, not a BvC.

Btw i never knew anything about unsummon locking, how does that exactly work? if you tele will it automatically tele on them once u have them unsummon locked?

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Gg guide, gave me tips on a barb, even though i have a BvA, not a BvC.

Btw i never knew anything about unsummon locking, how does that exactly work? if you tele will it automatically tele on them once u have them unsummon locked?


it's kind of like a silent namelock, you can nl them and they have no idea and you can just surprise them.
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Jul 11 2008 03:16am
Hi ling, great guide!

I followed Deadeyes guide (which is almost similar to yours) but still lacking the 3/20/20 instead i have some max dmg grand charms, there are a few questions left.

Although most of the time expected to be easy: I still have the following problems:

- Gosu smiters are hard (40k def)! seriously when I have 21K of attack rating with angelics, they hit me or my mana is empty.

- Gosu Volcano druids are also a pain in the ass, I have no idea how to fight them, specially because I cannot find them in all this lava.

- I also have troubles with bowzones, I really try to supprise them, however, the smart ones are not so easily supprised sad.gif, the only way is to be fast as hell and be lucky that you teleport at the right place.

- Euhm most fire sorcs are easy, however, some keep shooting from a 2 screens distance until they hit me, catching them is like fishing! They are gone too easily. this last one is a matter of experience i guess.

By the way, llately I was definately beaten by a ww-sin with a full stash of 3/20/20. That is another problem: most chars have gosu materials!which you can buy on the internet. That costs me around 200 euro!?!? I am not going to spend that.

I hope you can give me some extra tips.

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Jul 11 2008 04:36pm
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it's kind of like a silent namelock, you can nl them and they have no idea and you can just surprise them.


also gets you accused of aa (fun)

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- Gosu smiters are hard (40k def)! seriously when I have 21K of attack rating with angelics, they hit me or my mana is empty.

I use 2x 70/15s for this and I have ~600 mana with angelics. obviously not applicable to all realms, but short of keeping a closer eye on your mana, there's not much else you can do

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- Gosu Volcano druids are also a pain in the ass, I have no idea how to fight them, specially because I cannot find them in all this lava.

i dunno quite what to do here since I haven't duled a compentent fire druid. i guess bow from afar for ow?

or you can try teleport + very tight TW while using some absorb if they have expensive gear

honestly i dunno.

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- I also have troubles with bowzones, I really try to supprise them, however, the smart ones are not so easily supprised sad.gif, the only way is to be fast as hell and be lucky that you teleport at the right place.


try to get 37 fcr. also it's not about spiralling in, it's more of teleporting to the side a bit to avoid a line of ga then going in for the kill

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- Euhm most fire sorcs are easy, however, some keep shooting from a 2 screens distance until they hit me, catching them is like fishing! They are gone too easily. this last one is a matter of experience i guess.


widowmaker or just be patient and try to get unsummon locks.

remember, if they play superdefensive, you can just stop dueling them, or play a bit more defensively than normal. it's very hard for a caster to duel against a cautious bvc

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By the way, llately I was definately beaten by a ww-sin with a full stash of 3/20/20. That is another problem: most chars have gosu materials!which you can buy on the internet. That costs me around 200 euro!?!? I am not going to spend that.


you can def lose to most wwsins if you don't whirl right and have bad luck. the trick is to whirl beside them (when they're whirling). do it so that you're out of their range, but they're still in yours. free hits

cheap charms: get enough 100+ ar gcs to hit 10-11k ar with CoA/Dr circ setup, then fill the rest with 20life + whatever mods. pretty cheap, and you only lose out on damage
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Jul 14 2008 05:12pm
Ey euhm thanks for the tips,

Can you give me more tips about getting a good namelock?, this is not always easy! And this 40 ED 15% ias jewel in the arreats...euhm this 15% ias is only useful for widow? Atm i have hoto and one doom, should i use a second doom? Is it effective? How much dmg does it do? And if i fight a BVC with it... i experienced that it took days to get some life off!

Btw. You are talking about this D2PK, can i move my own items to this realm? And characters easy to build (is it easy getting items)?



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Ey euhm thanks for the tips,

Can you give me more tips about getting a good namelock?, this is not always easy! And this 40 ED 15% ias jewel in the arreats...euhm this 15% ias is only useful for widow? Atm i have hoto and one doom, should i use a second doom? Is it effective? How much dmg does it do? And if i fight a BVC with it... i experienced that it took days to get some life off!

Btw. You are talking about this D2PK, can i move my own items to this realm? And characters easy to build (is it easy getting items)?


better namelock = practice hard
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Jul 16 2008 04:38am
dude...

If i want to hit a hammerdin with widow i need angelics, and for me it means i have to spend 30 dex. In short: with ravens I can hold this widow, but it does not hit a hammerdin they all miss. So what should i do?
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Quote (Mr_Brok @ Wed, Jul 16 2008, 10:38am)
dude...

If i want to hit a hammerdin with widow i need angelics, and for me it means i have to spend 30 dex. In short: with ravens I can hold this widow, but it does not hit a hammerdin they all miss. So what should i do?
widow is bad

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