u are the one saying LOH add minor so now u saying it is good , as i mentioned earlier u can switch whatever u deem suits on the glove , lots of options with the 2/20 ammy

steelrend = 60ed + 20str (free 20ed)
2/20 + (20-30str, 30str is trophy , ideally 20++ is the best u could get) on amulet ( another source of free ed )

now u see how it adds up to 9%? u basically gets more than 100 enhanced damage which apply to all your basic attacks ( crit or no crit )

if u are not using insight , yes hl will be the best

the way the game calc crit strike + ds just make hl value drop with this build

eg: a level 99 char that uses insight , hl only gives around 10% of crit %

also , u wont be able to reach 125fcr with highlord + phoenix


This post was edited by Onyxdian on Mar 26 2026 03:25am

Can one of you guys explain for me the way insights krit points work?
Is it more important for example to have 6 krit instead of high ed on insight?

Yeah but 10% crit is wayyyy more damage than some more ed when you already sit at 1.3k ed … highlord is not needed for sure but dropping highlord to get fcr when you could get it from gloves doesn’t seem good to me.


If you realy want more ed, phoenix is definitly better than steelrends. Instead of dropping 20fcr on gloves for some mini ed, just run to/mages + 1 fcr ring and go phoenix instead of Mephisto .
This will give more ed than steelrends. With one fcr ring you also can get your missing manaleech and more resists.

You are right , you can’t go phoenix and highlord on insight. But dropping both for steelrends instead of to/mages is just wrong

this is fcr glove + 2/20 ammy +phoenix shield +fcr ring to reach 125fcr , u may compared them with the one i shared earlier

Not really tbh

350ed vs demons is be better than 60ed +20str, but still, both are low dmg adds

there is just no way it gives more dmg than 37DS from HL, the calc you used is def wrong on this part

is okay dude, u clearly still do not understand how ds works when pair with crit strike

fyi this is maxroll , i had asked u to share which char planner u used and share it here so we can see , please do so if u have 1

Nooooo don’t put jewel there

Bro , the only reason to run ondal over obsession is that you get a free socket for deadly strike

DON‘T put the jewel in to get one more ed jewel into your helmet.

You already reach 1553% ed on ondal , and you realy want to sacrifice 20% deadly strike for some weapon damage and 40 more ed added to this pile?

Weapon damage almost doesn’t matter. Obsession is better than Ondal in every way BUT the free socket for Lo.

With obsession you reach ~66% crit (highlord, gores levitation)
With Ondal you reach ~80% crit (highlord gores levitation Lo)

That’s why Ondal has a higher damage sealing than obsession.

If you don’t put a Lo on ondal , Obsession is better in every way.
20% more fcr and insane defensive stats.
Both can run highlord AND Phoenix.

The actual max damage build:

Weapon: Ondal with Lo
Offhand: phoenix
Armor: Enigma
Rings: 2x Fcr with biiiig resists
Amu: highlord
Gloves: Mage/To
Belt:Arach
Boots: Gores
Merc: Pride coh Andy

This will give you Following stats:

125 fcr
44 skill level ES
80% crit chance
1553% off-weapon ED

I‘m pretty sure this is the actual best setup for minmaxinh your damage.

Ondal and obsession are the only weapons that allow for highlord + phoenix on 125fcr.
Ondal can even reach 80% crit while maintaining 44 skill levels and the biggest enhanced damage you can get.

If you don’t care about pure damage realy just go obsession . 66% crit is plenty, it can still run phoenix with 125 fcr and has the best
Defensive stats by a mile.

But for pure damage 125fcr setups: Ondal>arioc>insight> obsession

For best overall build: Obsession >>>> all probably

This post was edited by Junglist69 on Mar 26 2026 05:42am

Yes, there is one version with Lo which dealt lesser damage , I can also post that if u want

Well it may have dealt lesser damage because the non Lo version has a tiny bit more weapon damage and 1594% Ed vs „only“ 1553% of course it is a bit more screen damage.

Your version has ~66 crit , Lo version has ~80 though

1594 ed with bit more weapon damage 66 crit
Vs
1553 ed with 80 crit.

You have so much ed already that another 40% ed will be absolutely minimal. But 14% crit does a lot. You realy seem to undervalue crit m8….

Lo version CLEARLY does more damage.

Like I said if you don’t go for Lo there is NO reason to use ondal over Obsession.

Without a Lo in Ondal it will have the same crit as Obsession. But obsession has 20 more fcr and all your resists covered, giving you the chance of more skills from ringslots or Loh

So you either go Lo in Ondal or you Go Obsession.

There is ZERO reason to use ondal without Lo as long as Obsession exists

This post was edited by Junglist69 on Mar 26 2026 06:02am