Thanks!

What about telebowa with GMB Faith tho?
Like, its a huge dmg boost vs 5% amplify

On p1-p3 amplify is useless, since bowa kills everything (except Baal) almost instantly.

Also why use mat faith? Shadow/diamond faith reach 7fpa anyway (with razor+atma) and have far higher damage.

This post was edited by c1nascimento on Jul 9 2022 02:33pm

Diablo is a funny game. Sometimes math is right but other times the actual gameplay is different. You really need to play this spec to realize why what we use is considered the best.

GMB raw damage vs amp from atma. Amp simply does a lot more than damage boost from GMB per run.

Mat faith is equally a great choice because if you play in curse heavy area a lot like chaos like me, 65ias should put you one bp above shadow under decriptify. And 3 bow skills can be moved to something else like a hybrid spec.

Edit: you really need to play first to understand how atma works in the runs.

Eth reapers will tank and decriptify the Frontline and atma will proc amp even off screen which melts everything even in p8.

The bowzon will be very op if blizzard buff our multishot so that every multishot arrow carry the proc

This post was edited by KimSulki84 on Jul 9 2022 02:41pm

I did play with Atma

I agree on p8 lack of Atma is an issue, but i also like huge raw damage of GMB Faith, hence the Wrath substitute on switch.

I was thinking if i could use it for telebowa, but, i guess, i could only get up to 40 fcr (20 fcr 45/120 + 2 fcr rings), which is pretty slow.

32% 15
48% 14
68% 13
99% 12
152% 11

What is the minimum optimal FCR for telebowa?



Oh, ok that makes sense, i'd never think of that



We're talking only p8 here though right?



I gotta try going p8 with eth reaper merc

This post was edited by c1nascimento on Jul 9 2022 03:04pm

I meant as a telebowa! Not boomer runner.

30 on bowhand
99 on offhand

P1, you can melt with any faith basically!

All I want is for Blizz to make crossbow Zonz viable. That's it.

I love crossbows. Hopefully we get some tweak on it.. just change the damn ias bp on thrm

Everything you wrote does make sense, i can see how Diamond Faith + Atma + Eth Reaper are fastest. If its meta (and AFAIK it is) then its probably right.

I'm thinking though:
runner GMB Faith + Pride/Might = 47-50k DPS (with 30% decrepify AOE all screen on Wrath)
tele GMB Faith + Pride/Might = 44k DPS (with 30% decrepify ranged AOE on Wrath) -> but slow tele with +40FCR, +35% crit chance
tele GMB Faith + Eth Reaper/Might = 37k DPS (with 33% decrepify on merc) -> fast tele on switch, +35% crit chance
tele Diamond Faith + Eth Reaper/Might = 31k DPS (with 33% decrepify on merc) -> 5% amplify from atma

So its +13k DPS (including +35% crit chance, which effectively is +15% crit chance), decrepify on all screen instead of only closest enemies, but slow tele and no 5% amplify
or +6k DPS (including +35% crit chance), but fast tele and no 5% amplify

Gotta keep in mind also decrepify + atma will cancel each other.

This post was edited by c1nascimento on Jul 9 2022 03:52pm

This math will be thrown out the window once you play telebowa because it's a ton more mobile which translates to higher damage per run.

You have no idea how many GMB users gave me shit when I first made this topic in Non Ladder when D2R was launched haha

EDIT: Wrath decrepitly proc on center 1-2 multi arrow not all no? and it gets overriden by life tap proc too?

This post was edited by KimSulki84 on Jul 9 2022 03:54pm

I kinda do, when i raised those ideas about GMB + Wrath all telebowas argued fiercely "what's this garbage, look at me do CS in 4min" calling me noob etc.



Out of 4 variants 3 where telebowa though.



It procs on multiple spots, it instantly decrepifies everything with Strafe too.
Life tap looks like pain in the ass, but since its only 5%, and decrepify is 30%, decrepify stays on top 90%.

This post was edited by c1nascimento on Jul 9 2022 03:58pm

#2 is not a good one at all with that slow fcr.

#3 and #4 are similar but Atma one is quicker clearing.

And what I'm saying is that you need to play this spec before putting down DPS comparison like that. The sheet dps means really nothing.

Me and all these bowzons in this topic have done all those gear choices to see which one is quickest and more efficient overall. Shadow/Diamond>Mat>GMB.

This post was edited by KimSulki84 on Jul 9 2022 03:59pm