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Just bumping this just in case you didnt see it, Im just curious.


It's my preference mainly. I found it more important in my experience to be able to sidestep anything and everything very quickly than load up on extra hp. However I have seen players build kicksins they were very happy with using the same build as mine aside from they used 5/20s instead. Depends on your style of play. Im not going to say one way is right as Ive seen other players be happy with both types of charm setups.

You will already be running fast because this is a BoS build and valk/enigma/dancers provide frw, there isnt too much a difference in yards/sec between the charm setup, but when it means running faster than the projectile being fired at you, moar is moar.

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What do you sacrifice to hit 102 fcr?
Smiters take you down pretty easy?
Also how much frw to outrun guided?
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Its hard to say how much frw to outrun guided, I had a chart that shows the yard/sec velocity of all projectile attacks in d2, I'll see if I can find that and post it. Guided still travel slightly faster but running in zigzags and making the guided turn seems to allow me to outrun them, also most of the time it isnt straight running away from guided, I will only run as far as I need to clear distance to allow myself to teleport, at which point that guided wont hit me anymore.

Smiters well.. look at the vid vs mcm. Thats basically what I do. widowmaker + l8zsauce. Kicking smiters does not have a good outcome. It's easy enough to avoid getting hit by smite as long as you can read desync, but some high hp/res smiters may provide a lengthy duel. I'd say as a class matchup both trappers and wwsins handle smiters better as you really can't use dtalon unless the smiter sucks or makes some horrible mistake, but widowmaker sin vs smite isnt too bad, just lengthy.

102 fcr is with 08 valk, 2x fcr rings, craft fcr amulet, trangs, arach

On east I used 65fcr and had wizardspike for a 102 option, but wizardspike just doesnt have enough mods to benefit kicks and as a result kicks are a lot weaker using it.
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Aug 3 2008 07:01pm
So without valk go 65. I cant afford a perm valk Im not gonna lie =P
And I dont like unperms. That chart would be awsome though. If you ever do a final version of this guide add that to it. Also like I said before kicker vs X strats would be awsome along with difficulty out of 10.
Rediculous this isnt sticked, but probably because it says work in progress.
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i tested this build @ d2pk and loved it, sticky.

btw ban that kid
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