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Sep 19 2019 07:24pm
Quote (Kilshok @ Sep 19 2019 06:17pm)
struggling to remember the level needed to skip using raven with Ebotdz to not get frozen. do i need to run 9 gcs and 10 3/20/20? I cant remember what i need in order to use dual melee rings instead of a raven to not be frozen while attacking in 5 frames


Lvl 20 werewolf needs 40 oias (highlords and 20 ias gloves for example)

Lvl 27 werewolf needs 25 oias (angelics, bloodfists, and a 40/15ias jewel in Gface for example)

Lvl 31 werewolf needs 20 oias (just highlords or just 20 ias gloves for example)

There is a diablo 2 weapon speed calculator on a site I don't think I can link here. If you go there and check the box for "decrep" (same effect as being frozen on ias) and then play with level and oias you can see for yourself as well.

You'll still turn blue and it will affect your run and walk speed as normal, but you will remain at the 9/5 Fury speed breakpoint.

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Quote (inkanddagger @ Sep 19 2019 08:24pm)
Lvl 20 werewolf needs 40 oias (highlords and 20 ias gloves for example)

Lvl 27 werewolf needs 25 oias (angelics, bloodfists, and a 40/15ias jewel in Gface for example)

Lvl 31 werewolf needs 20 oias (just highlords or just 20 ias gloves for example)

There is a diablo 2 weapon speed calculator on a site I don't think I can link here. If you go there and check the box for "decrep" (same effect as being frozen on ias) and then play with level and oias you can see for yourself as well.

You'll still turn blue and it will affect your run and walk speed as normal, but you will remain at the 9/5 Fury speed breakpoint.


damn, i appreciate the speedy response. that helps me figure out a couple builds
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Oct 11 2019 07:57pm
Quote (Kilshok @ Sep 19 2019 07:03pm)
damn, i appreciate the speedy response. that helps me figure out a couple builds


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Oct 27 2019 03:08pm
Can you tell me why you recommend a ravenfrost with a 5 frame weapon?

Which of the two rings that you mentioned do you prefer with the raven? Or are these only for 4 frame weapons (and you recommend another ring w/ ravenfrost)?

9min damage
100+ar
20+str
40+ life
x2

Or

100+ar
20+str
10+dext
40+life
x2
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Oct 27 2019 09:37pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Aug 23 2019 01:24pm)
Rereading things, I realized that I ultimately scrapped jeweled cerebus and ber storm for ber cerebus and shael storm. The extra life/damage is nothing compared to the extra block breakpoint.


but if I'm using a regular fort instead of a fort of chains, I should not go with a ber'd cerebus right?

the best setup for a regular fort user would be:

jeweled cerebus (I was thinking about putting a 7fhr/ed/str/dex) + shael'd storm?

Or should the storm be jewel'd as well?

I'm planning on using an ebotdz btw.

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Quote (Modification @ Oct 27 2019 02:08pm)
Can you tell me why you recommend a ravenfrost with a 5 frame weapon?

Which of the two rings that you mentioned do you prefer with the raven? Or are these only for 4 frame weapons (and you recommend another ring w/ ravenfrost)?

9min damage
100+ar
20+str
40+ life
x2

Or

100+ar
20+str
10+dext
40+life
x2



It depends on your other gear and werewolf level. For example, if you use steelrends with botdz and highlords (20 oias) then being frozen will cause you to drop an attack frame if you are level 31 or lower werewolf. Adding 10 more oias for 30 total oias (bloodfists or stat/crushing blow craft gloves) means you don't need to use a raven. But you would still want a raven if you plan to do anything except click and hold melee.

The higher life rings are going to perform better for you.

Quote (Modification @ Oct 27 2019 08:37pm)
but if I'm using a regular fort instead of a fort of chains, I should not go with a ber'd cerebus right?

the best setup for a regular fort user would be:

jeweled cerebus (I was thinking about putting a 7fhr/ed/str/dex) + shael'd storm?

Or should the storm be jewel'd as well?

I'm planning on using an ebotdz btw.



Shael does help a lot in many duels, especially vs 4 frame attackers like zeal. Vs other 5 frame druids and barbs a good jewel can help. You don't want stats on it because you want to be able to swap between them, so like 18min-18max or 30 max jewels work well here. Even a 40ed/20life would be good.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Oct 27 2019 11:06pm
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Oct 28 2019 04:13am
Thanks for the quick response,

Is crushing blow setup only needed for other fury wolves?

Also, with the crushing blow setup (Guillaume + dungos), I only get 40 fhr. Should I use a 5fhr/3max/20ar SC to reach that 42 fhr breakpoint? Or is that breakpoint not worth it? Or maybe I should use a 7fhr stormshield instead...?
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Quote (Modification @ Oct 28 2019 03:13am)
Thanks for the quick response,

Is crushing blow setup only needed for other fury wolves?

Also, with the crushing blow setup (Guillaume + dungos), I only get 40 fhr. Should I use a 5fhr/3max/20ar SC to reach that 42 fhr breakpoint? Or is that breakpoint not worth it? Or maybe I should use a 7fhr stormshield instead...?


My guilaumes has an Ed/min/7fhr jewel in it.
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Oct 28 2019 06:23pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 28 2019 11:30am)
My guilaumes has an Ed/min/7fhr jewel in it.


Cool. What kind of jewels would you put in a 30frw 3os circlet?
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Oct 29 2019 11:57am
7 fhr and something * 3 so you have an fhr breakpoint. Like two 7/ar/min/ed and one 7 fhr with whatever stats you have in your pelts so your stats all match.
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