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you dont seem to be using 2X claws, yet you invest points into claw block? ;X Kinda confused haha.
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you dont seem to be using 2X claws, yet you invest points into claw block? ;X Kinda confused haha.


He uses 2 claws in certain setups..
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you dont seem to be using 2X claws, yet you invest points into claw block? ;X Kinda confused haha.

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Oh and I have a friend that has a GFG fury druid....MULTIPLE setups lol. Im sure youve dueled top class shifter druids before. How does the kicker do vs them?

Fury druids arent really a problem. Stunlock them then stomp and kick, if they are about to break out of stun back of and repeat. Cloak of shadows hurts ss druids defenses a lot meaning more kicks will land meaning they wont be able to get out of hit recovery as easy if at all, combined with fleshripper/ss and some shadow stacking for the telestomps it'll be very hard for a druid to get a hit off, you can really use hit recovery against them and them not being able to teleport means you can trap them fairly easy.

Rabies druids can be difficult because its the same thing as a fury druid except you dont have the leway of being allowed to get hit due to mistakes, and also you have to not use shadow master in duels against rabies. I try to use kicks to give all shapeshifting druids a good duel but really if there are any problems I can throw on a widowmaker to be abusive vs shapeshift druids.

kicksin vs shapeshift druid is simply about how careful the kicksin is, if the player rushes in and tries to kick without having good stun support the druid can of course overpower the kicksin and pk in a few fury hits, good players will try to play defensive and draw out the duel to lure assassins into going offensive outside and careless. Kicksins must not fall for this.
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you dont seem to be using 2X claws, yet you invest points into claw block? ;X Kinda confused haha.


Kicksins that dont hybridize thier skill setups have a lot of extra skill points to customize the build with. I find myself using w/s most of the time but of course 1v1 vs a necro or a trapper it would be superior to use c/c, so I have my skill setup support both and carry claws in my stash for when I want to use them.
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Also fury is an interruptable attack making it even harder to get a clean fury sequence on the sin when they're kicking you in the middle of wake traps and you have MB swirls over your head.
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You use 5 frw/5 res scs? Is the FRW really that important on charms or will resist charms do? If I need those to outrun guided then Ill get them lol.
Also I play east/nl and dont use dupes like storm because I hate perming. If I go for the 102 fcr bp instead of 64 will i lose anything major like resists?
Do Smiters rape you? I see how you can beat barbs but smiters....

oh and ofc awsome guide. I remember you giving me this build when you were helping me make a kicker on rpgforums a while back lol...
Oh and strats against specific builds would make this guide perfection.


Just bumping this just in case you didnt see it, Im just curious.
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