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Jan 5 2009 06:55am
you are right that vita build might be more effective but your calculations suck hard -.-
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Jan 5 2009 07:16am
Quote (isdochegal @ Tue, 9 Dec 2008, 16:22)
looool completly useless...

did u ever heard of ias? u just watch at the output dmg...but every hit causes the enemy to block or hit aka stunn!!!

ur bow will be easy food for any half decent pvp

haha just read... switch cta/spirit...this makes me even more laugh^^

ps a mixed zon >all  easy to get 50% dr in switch, ~2+k life(without bo!), 6-6,5k max dmg and the ability so use nice resis/abs when needed...and guess what such zon can reach 7fps tongue.gif


easy to absorb
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This post was edited by tudey on Jan 5 2009 07:16am
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Jan 5 2009 01:29pm
Quote (Lombimars @ Mon, Jan 5 2009, 01:23am)
what a fail guide lol


care to explain? Or are you just part of the ignorant crowd who realized it wasent a glass cannon build after having read the whole build, got raged, and declared it a failure. Lmk

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Quote (oMauno @ Mon, Jan 5 2009, 01:23am)
you are right that vita build might be more effective but your calculations suck hard -.-


Which calcs are you having troubles with? i would be happy to dull them down to 2nd grade math for you

This post was edited by Spartikis on Jan 5 2009 01:32pm
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Jan 5 2009 01:48pm
You fail sir.
A glass canon with 1k life , 0% dr , 0 resi? lol 50 fg bow :S

what in europe.

20% dr from bb.
and 50% dr on titan switch

max resistance

1,5k life w/o bo

and like 5-7k GA max damage
sick AR with dex build.
maxblock with all Shields


and in tvt you get bo = you have high life also.
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Jan 5 2009 02:41pm
Quote (diablo_es @ Mon, Jan 5 2009, 02:48pm)
You fail sir.
A glass canon with 1k life , 0% dr , 0 resi? lol 50 fg bow :S

what in europe.

20% dr from bb.
and 50% dr on titan switch

max resistance

1,5k life w/o bo

and like 5-7k GA max damage
sick AR with dex build.
maxblock with all Shields


and in tvt you get bo = you have high life also.


Not everyone has bb, nor can many afford it if it is on their realm. BB is the most rigged item i have seen in this game by far, and even if it was on my realm to use, i probably wouldnt use it because of how god awfully unbalanced it is.

Lets talk realisticly like the guide... a glass zon will have at best 1k life, anymore then they arent really glass, but reguardless, anything other than vita is doomed to die from anyone who knows how to control a char. Even the most skillful pvp zon user will die fast when using a glass zon, they suck end of story.

As for tvt, with a barb bo u can probaly achieve 2-3k life, but on this vita zon, i achieve 5-6k life with a barb bo. My damage will be less than urs, but my life, dr and res is still far superior than a glass zon and can still massively out tank.


As for those who are crying about cta + spirit...
cta + spirit is strictly for casters who do not require block, for things i need block for, i swap on ss... then i have bo with 3.6k+ life, and max dr with about 65+ block.
As for javs, ive killed smiters with ss + cta, but i also have +1 lf to use eth up titans against smiters and other zons.

Any zon who uses javs on switch 24/7 = fail.
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Jan 5 2009 03:52pm
Quote (diablo_es @ Mon, Jan 5 2009, 12:48pm)
You fail sir.
A glass canon with 1k life , 0% dr , 0 resi? lol 50 fg bow :S

what in europe.

20% dr from bb.
and 50% dr on titan switch

max resistance

1,5k life w/o bo

and like 5-7k GA max damage
sick AR with dex build.
maxblock with all Shields


and in tvt you get bo = you have high life also.



you must be confused, a zon with more vita will have _WAY_ more life from barb bo then a glass cannon

and a glass cannon in TVT? i think you are mistaken.
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Jan 5 2009 07:00pm
Quote (26105 @ Mon, Jan 5 2009, 04:52pm)
you must be confused, a zon with more vita will have _WAY_ more life from barb bo then a glass cannon

and a glass cannon in TVT? i think you are mistaken.


Oh... I guess there are smart people out there happy.gif
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Jan 5 2009 07:58pm
Quote (Mattd90 @ Mon, Jan 5 2009, 04:41pm)
Not everyone has bb, nor can many afford it if it is on their realm. BB is the most rigged item i have seen in this game by far, and even if it was on my realm to use, i probably wouldnt use it because of how god awfully unbalanced it is.

Lets talk realisticly like the guide... a glass zon will have at best 1k life, anymore then they arent really glass, but reguardless, anything other than vita is doomed to die from anyone who knows how to control a char. Even the most skillful pvp zon user will die fast when using a glass zon, they suck end of story.

As for tvt, with a barb bo u can probaly achieve 2-3k life, but on this vita zon, i achieve 5-6k life with a barb bo. My damage will be less than urs, but my life, dr and res is still far superior than a glass zon and can still massively out tank.


As for those who are crying about cta + spirit...
cta + spirit is strictly for casters who do not require block, for things i need block for, i swap on ss... then i have bo with 3.6k+ life, and max dr with about 65+ block.
As for javs, ive killed smiters with ss + cta, but i also have +1 lf to use eth up titans against smiters and other zons.

Any zon who uses javs on switch 24/7 = fail.


well put...and yes my buddy has a max BO barb and my zon hits like 7,400 life with it.
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Jan 5 2009 08:22pm
Quote (Mattd90 @ Mon, Jan 5 2009, 08:41pm)


Any zon who uses javs on switch 24/7 = fail.

Ill gladly duel any bowazon on useast while using my javs on switch.
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Jan 5 2009 09:37pm
Quote (Chased @ Mon, Jan 5 2009, 09:22pm)
Ill gladly duel any bowazon on useast while using my javs on switch.


I duel all zons with ss + titan, ive found it works better for zvz and against smiters/charging pallys. But im willing to bet thats the only setup u have for ur zon, because if u tried to use cta for extra life, i will guarantee u dont have enough res/dr to back that life up. Unlike 95% of zons on bnet, this build can handle using cta, or titan + ss.

As for zvz, im always up for it. Lmk.
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