Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Mar 21 2012 02:22pm)

I cannot find an East Barb with an EDC to test this

Getting annoying

Quote (farloo @ Mar 14 2012 10:38am)

yes, i'm testing it vs a bab with xxxk health, cb removes a fraction of their health so its pretty obvious when I got a crushing blow

sorry for the delay, results will be up soon

Edit: Ok finally done, here's what I got ( took a while as i realised that to make sure it was grief/edc not beast that was hitting lol )

EDC:

1 526
2 604
3 643
4 197
5 220
6 557
7 459
8 436
9 631
10 286
11 258
12 497
13 468
14 488
15 611
16 628
17 586
18 566
19 357
20 488
avg 475.3

Grief

1 456
2 467
3 550
4 447
5 468
6 474
7 467
8 439
9 440
10 435
11 440
12 489
13 457
14 439
15 467
16 489
17 466
18 512
19 456
20 433
avg 464.55

used setups i said in previous post

Looks like grief damage is more closely packed in as you would expect, but EDC seems to be harder hitting. I guess if I followed tudey's guide to the letter and used all that +str stuff it would only favour EDC?

But anyway I'm of to work, I'll leave it to you guys to ponder the results ( if you have any questions about what I used pm me and I'll write to you when I'm back ).

Quote (Jeebus666 @ Mar 21 2012 01:43pm)

You dont need one

Quote (monSt4r @ Mar 21 2012 02:50pm)

The setups are not good enough , let the man test !
Habaku, maybe test single player.

Quote (Jeebus666 @ Mar 21 2012 01:53pm)

cant see anything wrong with the setup he used ( based on his post ).

Statistically, if we claim that the standard assumptions on grief are the null hypothesis, this test shows significant evidence at a 95% level to reject the null hypothesis in favour of tudey's theory.

Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Mar 21 2012 02:02pm)

Tbh, I did later wonder how grief's +400 factors in with axe mastery
Does Axe Mastery amplify +400 or not?

This along with a few other things that I am wondering about the +400 flat
Is why I want to run this test

Though I do not want to spend the fg to find a P EDC



If anyone has a Perfect (or near Perfect) Ethereal Death Cleaver
PM me, to run a damage test in-game vs GriefZ

East NL

Quote (monSt4r @ Mar 21 2012 03:09pm)

hahahha, this throw me back in college days Well a formulae can be also given for proof, these tests could be used only to prove that the formulae calculation for +damage items is really different from the standard.
I saw 4x 200 damage EDC in his testing, which is kinda weird if he used highlords, could you be good to paste the setup also. Btw can you have 100% DS (95% seems more realistic for blizzard)?
And also, does any barbarian uses no damage OW weapon and how is the switch working out (2x switch, 1x switch...) ?

Quote (farloo @ Mar 14 2012 09:39am)

Ok but, in the other guide it says to use a lot of strength as this increases damage?

How much strength exactly should I use or does it not matter? And the gear I was thinking was something like:

Arreats
enigma
beast
EDC/Grief
arach
2 ravens
highlords
trangs

full 3 20 20 charms torch anni, is that ok?

Quote (Jeebus666 @ Mar 21 2012 02:19pm)

not wierd at all, EDC min damage is like 140 or so, then you get like +123% damage from ~30 mastery, 186% ed from fanat, like an extra 150 ed from strength bonuses and maybe he had a 40ed jewel in the arreats too.
So thats like 500 ed or so? So yo have a 6 x multiplier which is cancelled out by the pvp penalty ( more or less ) and the Deadly strike cancels out the 50% DR, so 200 damage seems pretty reasonable for sure.

And DS can be 100%

This seems to be the setup he used.

Quote (monSt4r @ Mar 21 2012 03:30pm)

Thanks for the info.
I don't have time atm to dwell on this topic, but it's quite interesting. I
Will read on it later, might even make a budget baba for pubs with this setup. But I'm worried about too many duels atm.
'll presume also that you don't use OW axes since you skipped that question 2 times

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*1x 5 Socket 15% Enhanced Damage Superior Berserker Axe socketed with 3x 15 IAS | 15 All Resist Jewels and 3x “Um” Runes to receive +45% to All Resists, +45% Increased Attack Speed and +75% Chance of Open Wounds
*1x 5 Socket +3 Attack Rating Superior Berserker Axe socketed with 3x 15 IAS | +100 to Attack Rating Jewels and 3x “Um” Runes to receive +303 to Attack Rating, +45% Increased Attack Speed and +75% Chance of Open Wounds