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Aug 5 2011 07:20am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Aug 5 2011 01:11pm)
i use 65% fcr on my ghost and hybrid

i put the 102% option in my guide for people who like it, but personally i like highlords way too much and find more then 65% isnt needed unless u are a trapper


how is 65ww assa vs 125fcr pb nec??
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Aug 5 2011 07:33am
Quote (MULTIQ @ Aug 5 2011 09:20am)
how is 65ww assa vs 125fcr pb nec??


I personally dont have a problem.

A good max block nec will have advantage over any type of wwsin regardless, I will not make that comparison here because no matter what u do, a good max block nec will still beat u (unless u rep all day behind corners).

Vita necs are ez to take down with a good namelock + dclaw.

65fcr = highlords = more damage per dclaw = faster kills.
102fcr = more fcr to catch nec easier to get kills

i suppose it depends on the dueler themselves, but for me i prefer 65fcr + highlords.

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Aug 5 2011 07:36am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Aug 5 2011 01:33pm)
I personally dont have a problem.

A good max block nec will have advantage over any type of wwsin regardless, I will not make that comparison here because no matter what u do, a good max block nec will still beat u (unless u rep all day behind corners).

Vita necs are ez to take down with a good namelock + dclaw.

65fcr = highlords = more damage per dclaw = faster kills.
102fcr = more fcr to catch nec easier to get kills

i suppose it depends on the dueler themselves, but for me i prefer 65fcr + highlords.


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Aug 5 2011 07:37am
Quote (Azn Masta @ 5 Aug 2011 15:30)
duel my ghost.

i'll wager u all the fg u own that i will beat u in a ft5 if u use a vita nec



trangs for vs casters and stuff, the one listed in my vt guide for vs melee damage dealing guys


cant be bothered to check it but i guess its just a gloves with a bunch of stats and maybe IAS and possibly some small amounts of res or life

you can't build around the stats becouse you don't use it all the time. if you want the gloves for stacked ias then you can get a cheap pair too. if not youre better off with just keeping trangs or swapping to dracs for more damage or clegs for slow (dunno if allowed in east though) or you could use bloodfists too for life, small extra ias and some fhr
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Aug 5 2011 07:40am
Quote (tudey @ Aug 5 2011 09:37am)
cant be bothered to check it but i guess its just a gloves with a bunch of stats and maybe IAS and possibly some small amounts of res or life

you can't build around the stats becouse you don't use it all the time. if you want the gloves for stacked ias then you can get a cheap pair too. if not youre better off with just keeping trangs or swapping to dracs for more damage or clegs for slow (dunno if allowed in east though) or you could use bloodfists too for life, small extra ias and some fhr


well my standard build uses 2x bks + 15dex in stats gloves

the gloves u will WANT to aim for is:

20ias/10cb/20life/30lite res/15dex/15str

vts wont need the extra str (i get enough str for CoA w/o the 15 str from gloves) so the extra str is just there to boost damage

as for the 15dex, when i duel in pub games, i tend u use trangs + fcr ring + raven frost... so my dex + 30% FCR is covered. i also use exile for overall cases due to defense and tap and stacked res. the times when i need more fcr, i'll throw on spirit

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Aug 5 2011 07:46am
Quote (Azn Masta @ 5 Aug 2011 16:40)
well my standard build uses 2x bks + 15dex in stats gloves

the gloves u will WANT to aim for is:

20ias/10cb/20life/30lite res/15dex/15str

vts wont need the extra str (i get enough str for CoA w/o the 15 str from gloves) so the extra str is just there to boost damage

as for the 15dex, when i duel in pub games, i tend u use trangs + fcr ring + raven frost... so my dex + 30% FCR is covered. i also use exile for overall cases due to defense and tap and stacked res. the times when i need more fcr, i'll throw on spirit


no cbf is kinda shitty
but i guess stat glove build can work like that for some cases in east if exile isnt allowed in svs
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Aug 5 2011 07:48am
Quote (tudey @ Aug 5 2011 09:46am)
no cbf is kinda shitty
but i guess stat glove build can work like that for some cases in east if exile isnt allowed in svs


u dont need cnbf in vt vs vt since u get holy frozen anyway haha. 2x bks = more life (or 1x bk + wisp)

and for duels where i need cannot be frozen, ofc i use raven. that one is just obvious haha (i just dont like building it around a raven, since it wont be needed for some match ups, and if i did, i would weaken myself in vt vs vt)

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Quote (Azn Masta @ Aug 5 2011 04:50am)
think of it this way.... a max block nec and a vita nec have the same identical setups for switching

diff between them is: max block nec is 75% block optional, while a vita nec has 300~ more life (3700-3800life max block switch vs 4000-4200 vita)

I can still use a white/spirit etc for damage setup vs chars that dont require block and gain the benefits of what a vita nec has (minus the 300 life - which is nothing really)

yet, when i really NEED it, i can always switch to max block to ensure a victory.


Thanks for that. I am halfway to level 89 right now leveling up to use my ammy. Then i will have the exact gear you said in the guide except for the charms i decided to go with 20/11 of fire/light res small charms because i already have max cold and i don't really care about poison its at 48

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Aug 9 2011 07:29am
Quote (Ridemyturtlez @ Aug 5 2011 12:43pm)
Thanks for that. I am halfway to level 89 right now leveling up to use my ammy. Then i will have the exact gear you said in the guide except for the charms i decided to go with 20/11 of fire/light res small charms because i already have max cold and i don't really care about poison its at 48


poison can be taken care of w/ treks to be honest (i keep treks in my stash for when i need it)

but meh.... 20/5s > 20/11 in my opinion (maybe 1-2x fire ones if u REALLY need to since grimspurs wont have res, but if u can manage a res diadem, u'll be fine)
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Aug 10 2011 02:46am
what setup do you use vs trap sin?

coa / hoto?


or would a white / 30frw diadem setup be more useful ?

higher frw + higher spear / spirit dmg would be imo better
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