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Jul 30 2009 08:54am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Thu, Jul 30 2009, 02:36pm)
good thinking but you made a small mistake. the primary claw is the claw that hits, but thats the entire point of wsm to switch up the claws/keep speed.

NORMALLY the primary claw is the glove side one. but when you wsm bug it, the glove side claw gets lifted up and then the boot side one becomes the new primary claw. so therefore you get to keep the ar mods from the fools AND keep the damage and speed of having a strong glove side claw.


that was my question, i just added a suggestion to the answer IF it had been that way ;) also switching up the two would also add some extra phys dmg? i mean, eth ed Suw would get somewhat more dmg than a Feral? (only min dmg that is tho)

btw with suw+feral wsm bugged u dont need extra ias from anywhere to max out trap laying speed?


edit, forget that one, you have ias on the suw aswell ofc.

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that was my question, i just added a suggestion to the answer IF it had been that way ;) also switching up the two would also add some extra phys dmg? i mean, eth ed Suw would get somewhat more dmg than a Feral? (only min dmg that is tho)

btw with suw+feral wsm bugged u dont need extra ias from anywhere to max out trap laying speed?


normally without wsm u would need 2x fast claws to get the trap laying speed. but with wsm it glitches it and you can use 1 slow claw and still be ok. as long as your other claw is a fast one

it wont add extra damage directly, but wsm allowed you to use a slow/stronger claw and still lay traps fast - hence more damage.

and yes. with suw + feral u'll need more ias. altho honestly, i found the speed with those two fine.
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Jul 30 2009 12:12pm
Quote (Gold1 @ Thu, Jul 30 2009, 07:54am)
that was my question, i just added a suggestion to the answer IF it had been that way ;) also switching up the two would also add some extra phys dmg? i mean, eth ed Suw would get somewhat more dmg than a Feral? (only min dmg that is tho)

btw with suw+feral wsm bugged u dont need extra ias from anywhere to max out trap laying speed?


edit, forget that one, you have ias on the suw aswell ofc.


Suwayyah + Feral WSM bug = 42 IAS required.
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Quote (Bryant @ Thu, Jul 30 2009, 02:12pm)
Suwayyah + Feral WSM bug = 42 IAS required.


or you can be specific lol. he asked if ias was needed so i said yet lol. but thanks for giving the exact number? i guess?
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Jul 31 2009 10:16am
I was just curious if it is necesary to have 50% dr at all times on the sin.
That doesnt make sense to me, why have extra dr when it isnt needed, right?

So this question comes from my build.
the only extra dr my build gets is 8% from nigma, and with all the rest of the gear, i will only get a level 42 fade (aka 50%dr) if i max fade.
now thats a lot of fuckin points.

Would it be better to get an additional sin/+15% fcr ammy with which i could combine a dungoes for when i need the dr? this would ultimately save me like 14 skill points in fade, which is alot.

Or would it be ultimately beneficial to not get a shide at all, and just get a gg 2/15%fcr ammy?

It seems that with shide, unless i max fade, i wont ever hit max dr. unless i add dungoes, but then i need fcr. and the only place i can gain is in the ammy.
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I was just curious if it is necesary to have 50% dr at all times on the sin.
That doesnt make sense to me, why have extra dr when it isnt needed, right?

So this question comes from my build.
the only extra dr my build gets is 8% from nigma, and with all the rest of the gear, i will only get a level 42 fade (aka 50%dr) if i max fade.
now thats a lot of fuckin points.

Would it be better to get an additional sin/+15% fcr ammy with which i could combine a dungoes for when i need the dr? this would ultimately save me like 14 skill points in fade, which is alot.

Or would it be ultimately beneficial to not get a shide at all, and just get a gg 2/15%fcr ammy?

It seems that with shide, unless i max fade, i wont ever hit max dr. unless i add dungoes, but then i need fcr. and the only place i can gain is in the ammy.


the dungos/fcr ammy is fine. which is why i suggest the ammy in the first place.

however keep in mind that by doing that you will probably need to put a few points into dex/str as well. also you will lose 1+skill and alot of mana. its fine though. no biggie.

as for the fade question. its always nice to have 50% dr. i got 50% dr with 1 point into fade so honestly its not hard and you arent wasting any points at all really (you need fade to get venom anyways). but thats because i ber'd my helm. if you use the dungos combo you can free up the 2 slots in your helm to put 1x 15ias/15res jewel and perhaps a jah or 20/15

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Quote (sktr7970 @ Fri, 31 Jul 2009, 19:16)
I was just curious if it is necesary to have 50% dr at all times on the sin.
That doesnt make sense to me, why have extra dr when it isnt needed, right?

So this question comes from my build.
the only extra dr my build gets is 8% from nigma, and with all the rest of the gear, i will only get a level 42 fade (aka 50%dr) if i max fade.
now thats a lot of fuckin points.

Would it be better to get an additional sin/+15% fcr ammy with which i could combine a dungoes for when i need the dr? this would ultimately save me like 14 skill points in fade, which is alot.

Or would it be ultimately beneficial to not get a shide at all, and just get a gg 2/15%fcr ammy?

It seems that with shide, unless i max fade, i wont ever hit max dr. unless i add dungoes, but then i need fcr. and the only place i can gain is in the ammy.


2 bers in circ
that+eni+fade should be good enough, if you have 4x dr I probably wouldnt add more points in fade to get 50%

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2 bers in circ
that+eni+fade should be good enough, if you have 4x dr I probably wouldnt add more points in fade to get 50%


imo it depends on what the "4x" is... if its 42 then its worth it.. if its 47+ or something then ur fine.
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Jul 31 2009 12:22pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Fri, 31 Jul 2009, 21:15)
imo it depends on what the "4x" is... if its 42 then its worth it.. if its 47+ or something then ur fine.


well I'd probably rather use 42 dr than stat 8 fade on hybrid ^^ also I would probably never get 60% block either

keep in mind I dont really give a shit about assa v assa, maybe for assa v assa sin 60 block and 50 dr would be worth it

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Jul 31 2009 12:28pm
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Quote (sktr7970 @ Fri, Jul 31 2009, 02:06pm)
any chance you could meet me in game to talk about my sin?


any chance u can sell me that ring for 350?

my answer will be the same as yours


Wow, you're ego is fucking huge. You claim to be one of the best, but you're nearly completely unwilling to help.
You can s my d.


sry. you ask for help but you dont give shit in return. helping selfish bitches like you isnt worth my time.

why dont go to hell


You want me to sell an item to you and take a loss when i can do much better, in return for advice, which costs you nothing?
I am most certainly not being selfish. You're attitude and ego need an adjustment.
Good luck to you.


let me tell you something. i offer my guide as help to the entire jsp and anyone else who wants to borrow info from it. the time it took alone to write that was like 5 hrs...and the experience which i derive from playing assassins and giving away this information took years. i offer the entire piece of what i have learned over the years for free...

do you have any idea how much people donate me to get additional help? i'll tell you. it can range from anywhere from 100-1000fg depending how big of a favor and how much of my time i have to spend to give a good answer. so thats a hella lot more than you could make from keeping that ring.

Quote (tudey @ Fri, Jul 31 2009, 02:22pm)
well I'd probably rather use 42 dr than stat 8 fade on hybrid ^^ also I would probably never get 60% block either

keep in mind I dont really give a shit about assa v assa, maybe for assa v assa sin 60 block and 50 dr would be worth it


well look at my stats and look at my skill tree. that should explain what i did to you.

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 31 2009 12:31pm
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