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Nov 24 2009 12:45pm
Quote (sylvannos @ Nov 24 2009 12:07pm)

LOL YOU LOST TO A SIN WEARING POS CLAW AND POS SHIELD W/ COA


last time I checked, 2-1 was me winning O_o
and he lost to a druid wearing 0 life skillers and shit ass boots and all self rolled gear

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And I call bs on your "10 fg" claim. I doubt sojs run for under 10 fg on east, or that a 40 res hoto is worth anything under 25.


that 40 res hoto was a vex i got early on that ladder. Technically, that druid cost somewhere around 13000-15000 FG when it was made, because that was about a week into ladder and I was one of only a few people with enigma, cta, hoto, etc. But in terms of value, yeah everything on him is worth like 10 fg right now

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Considering necs>hybs in general I doubt it

Plus ww/ls hybs work because ww counters wsg effectively, kick is a _walkable_ skill and when you wsg you are _walking_. Effectively, everytime you set-up a kick/trap lock you are vulnerable to having several wsg spears in your face, not to mention hybrids suck at chasing in the first place and you don't even have WW to make up for it.


its a 174% fcr mind blast oriented hybrid build, its pretty much *made* for necros.
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Nov 24 2009 12:46pm
ahaha this tragedy was raped by a bearsin....

































































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Nov 24 2009 12:51pm
Quote (Hajonston @ Nov 24 2009 06:45pm)
last time I checked, 2-1 was me winning O_o
and he lost to a druid wearing 0 life skillers and shit ass boots and all self rolled gear


shaman vs bearsin.
this is no joking matter. we need judges to keep the score get a trusted mod in the game next time.


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its a 174% fcr mind blast oriented hybrid build, its pretty much *made* for necros.


102 c/c is a better choice vs necs by far.

This post was edited by Ziecheik on Nov 24 2009 12:58pm
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Nov 24 2009 01:02pm
Quote (Hajonston @ 24 Nov 2009 19:45)
last time I checked, 2-1 was me winning O_o
and he lost to a druid wearing 0 life skillers and shit ass boots and all self rolled gear



that 40 res hoto was a vex i got early on that ladder. Technically, that druid cost somewhere around 13000-15000 FG when it was made, because that was about a week into ladder and I was one of only a few people with enigma, cta, hoto, etc. But in terms of value, yeah everything on him is worth like 10 fg right now



its a 174% fcr mind blast oriented hybrid build, its pretty much *made* for necros.


..w/s is mince-meat vs necros, you made it for the wrong char.

This post was edited by Tails chao on Nov 24 2009 01:03pm
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Nov 24 2009 01:14pm
Quote (Hajonston @ Nov 24 2009 10:45am)
last time I checked, 2-1 was me winning O_o
and he lost to a druid wearing 0 life skillers and shit ass boots and all self rolled gear



that 40 res hoto was a vex i got early on that ladder. Technically, that druid cost somewhere around 13000-15000 FG when it was made, because that was about a week into ladder and I was one of only a few people with enigma, cta, hoto, etc. But in terms of value, yeah everything on him is worth like 10 fg right now



its a 174% fcr mind blast oriented hybrid build, its pretty much *made* for necros.



Quote (Ziecheik @ Nov 24 2009 10:51am)
shaman vs bearsin.
this is no joking matter. we need judges to keep the score get a trusted mod in the game next time.


:rofl:
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Nov 24 2009 01:38pm
Quote (Tails chao @ Nov 24 2009 01:02pm)
..w/s is mince-meat vs necros, you made it for the wrong char.


nty

174% fcr can't be done with c/c. W/S 174% and massively lame gameplay is how it works:

20 mind blast
20 wake of fire
20 wake of inferno
20 fire blast
20* venom (rest)
1 shadow master
1 dragon tail

rocking my awesome budget gear (I could do it better with an expensive ammy + circlet):

Wizspike
Enigma
Spirit
Griffs (yes griffs)
2x fcr rings
2 sin / fcr ammy (not enough to sub out for an soj, need a better one)
Arachs
Trangs (not magefists- more venom)
Dancers
10x shadow charms (not traps)

The idea here is that my 300 damage mind blasts, cast at 174% fcr, are actually lethal themselves. Much much more lethal than how a ghost does it thanks to extra frame of FCR and skills. So even if a necro slaps on 2x dwarfs + spurs, the mind blast goes straight through his bone armor in just a couple casts, and kicks / body block / wof stops the WSG in its tracks. Basically, it completely rocks any caster character but dies to any paladin that slaps on grief + charge -.-

Dont remember who it was but one of you guys from this forum called me out on it with their necro and got embarrassed a while back, might still have screenies on here
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Nov 24 2009 01:40pm
Quote (Hajonston @ Nov 24 2009 05:10pm)

Shaman can 1-2 punch through bone armor with volcano/grizzly combo- kills bone armor instantly and puts him into FHR at least once, means large HP chunk removed
Necro can also wear 2x dwarf stars & rising sun and revive mass urdars if he wanted, too.


I like your confidence cuz its confidence mixed with ignorance, kind of how like every kid believes he will own 10 ferraris and live in a mansion some day.

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Nov 24 2009 01:42pm
Quote (Hajonston @ Nov 24 2009 07:38pm)
nty

174% fcr can't be done with c/c. W/S 174% and massively lame gameplay is how it works:

20 mind blast
20 wake of fire
20 wake of inferno
20 fire blast
20* venom (rest)
1 shadow master
1 dragon tail

rocking my awesome budget gear (I could do it better with an expensive ammy + circlet):

Wizspike
Enigma
Spirit
Griffs (yes griffs)
2x fcr rings
2 sin / fcr ammy (not enough to sub out for an soj, need a better one)
Arachs
Trangs (not magefists- more venom)
Dancers
10x shadow charms (not traps)

The idea here is that my 300 damage mind blasts, cast at 174% fcr, are actually lethal themselves. Much much more lethal than how a ghost does it thanks to extra frame of FCR and skills. So even if a necro slaps on 2x dwarfs + spurs, the mind blast goes straight through his bone armor in just a couple casts, and kicks / body block / wof stops the WSG in its tracks. Basically, it completely rocks any caster character but dies to any paladin that slaps on grief + charge -.-

Dont remember who it was but one of you guys from this forum called me out on it with their necro and got embarrassed a while back, might still have screenies on here


oh boy =\
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Nov 24 2009 01:46pm
Quote (Hajonston @ 24 Nov 2009 21:38)
nty

174% fcr can't be done with c/c. W/S 174% and massively lame gameplay is how it works:

20 mind blast
20 wake of fire
20 wake of inferno
20 fire blast
20* venom (rest)
1 shadow master
1 dragon tail

rocking my awesome budget gear (I could do it better with an expensive ammy + circlet):

Wizspike
Enigma
Spirit
Griffs (yes griffs)
2x fcr rings
2 sin / fcr ammy (not enough to sub out for an soj, need a better one)
Arachs
Trangs (not magefists- more venom)
Dancers
10x shadow charms (not traps)

The idea here is that my 300 damage mind blasts, cast at 174% fcr, are actually lethal themselves. Much much more lethal than how a ghost does it thanks to extra frame of FCR and skills. So even if a necro slaps on 2x dwarfs + spurs, the mind blast goes straight through his bone armor in just a couple casts, and kicks / body block / wof stops the WSG in its tracks. Basically, it completely rocks any caster character but dies to any paladin that slaps on grief + charge -.-

Dont remember who it was but one of you guys from this forum called me out on it with their necro and got embarrassed a while back, might still have screenies on here


yea, wof is great against wsg with its fast startup and big range and shots that you cant outrun :)
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Nov 24 2009 01:49pm
Quote (tudey @ Nov 24 2009 01:46pm)
yea, wof is great against wsg with its fast startup and big range and shots that you cant outrun :)


sry but wof > ls against WSG (once the lock is already initiated)

Its harder to break free from WoF, and will take you a couple extra seconds, whereas its easier to set up an LS lock with a namelock on someone. But I don't do that. I just mindlessly spam WoF all over the map until they eventually land on one and its game over :S Sry but with 174% fcr MB hitting you alternatively with WoF casts, its harder to break free from than LS. Meni harder


LS you can just walk away at an angle and you can even teleport away just like 2 inches from the trap. WoF you often have to cross 2 screen lengths or break namelock / minimap -.-
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