Quote (monSt4r @ Aug 10 2011 10:21am)
It was some time since I had my ghost changed to hyb, which I never really truly tested vs all that ghost testing, and in the end I think I had very similar thought process about assassins like you do-including the mass use of ls level 1 coupled with standard wof (with the exception that gclaw costs 15k fg on europe and 2 exists only, so thats a no go in EU and doing eth Chaos Rws break pretty fast I guess).
The duels I had problems with my ghost were not only class problems, but also a very good players behind it problems. For example non block nec was very easy in my experience with chainlock dclaw strat with heavier weapons, but a max block one needs completely different strategy and comes down to Open wounds and getting that window to inflict OW.
Also I've met some hammers that really give you the run for your money (and again this duel comes to OW drainage and his capability to predict a move of your WW), but LS really shined in these duels predicting the desynch and breaking their teleport in annoying moments for them.
Barbarians I never wanted to WW against, maybe should have tried, but I figured beating bad ones with WW ain't gonna make me a better player vs a good one, so I went with Nef-ed Widowmaker and I opt you try it (I even restated once for hard point LS cause of possibility of having a bow and LS at the same time). But having Bos, baba will kill you in 1-2 WWs so this strategy takes a lot of patience in learning curve. Oh yes, and if barbarian wears a shield thats just annoying-you can kill him with like 300 arrows or so.
Ghost beats other assa builds in my testing, I've had probs with max block trapper but a Lo-ed helm could help there in maybe changing the tides of battle.
Druids are easy (where maybe a rabies dudu with range 5 weapon could ruin your day, not much of these around but should be noted)
Soso I only had problem with one with frozen shield or such, till i figured Widowmaker solves the problem, rest no. I've met also a lot of people saying they beat assa with their soso, but it's impossible vs a good ghost.
Amazons I've met few good hybrids, but the thing you need to have vs a pro ama is knockback. They won't tell you that it bothers them more then anything, but it's the best way to achieve victory. You might think they are easy, but loosing half of your life to multi shot and wwing where they are not can be a death sentence.
All this being said, I went from all max ar life charms into few shadow for claw block 62% and to have higher venom in all hard cases mentioned above, and figured that maybe hybrid is a better solution. First problem you see with hybrid is a lack of mind blast on a master, so giving it some more points is a must, but the idea why hybrid is better cause the strategy remains the same. If the opponent is high deff, full block paladin, physical damage won't kill them as much as Open wounds (and in an extent venom) will, but also your LSs starts to sting slowly. You also have a chance to beat a better barb now, although it will take time again...and vs all those easy matchups before you just slap Highlords and that good physical damage claw and its fine (with the little lack of mind blasting master)
All in all I don't know why I started to type all this, but I never wore Shadowdancers on a ghost. STreks gave me very nice bonuses and life difference between the two probably only differs when having godly equip. Plus poison resist is nice to have vs a brother in arms (I use only lightning scs 20/11 and switch them for fire if needed). 2 shadow skills are really not that much of a difference when playing a ghost, and I switched my treks for gores (Gface and gores combo gives 50% CB, same DS as with having a highlords and circ, and more OW which is nicer then it looks on boots, and 15str on treks is made up by 15str guillaume). But to be honest, I never figured out was CB really good in matchups I used it in and thats why I was thinking to abandon that strategy altogether and maybe try dancers one day on pure ghost.
Is 30 frw on a helm really that necessary ? In what situations can it be useful ? Thats all for now, I got lost in reminiscence on my old ghost.
Btw how in power would you compare Hybrid assa and a Ghost (No bugged items involved, cause if I had Gclaw chaos I would never go Hybrid) ?
1) i personally used widowmaker myself vs some barbs for years... but i found out that in the end. a fast barb will beat u regardless.... u actually have a higher chance to exchanging win using ww and "l8zing" with ow than trying to bow down a smart/barb who has high fcr.
2) ofc a hybrid would be better than a ghost for overall duels. like i said a ghost is caster killer intended. if u want an all round sin, make trapper or hybrid
3) 30frw is not NEEDED but it helps with drive by hits and makes ur synch + dod faster.... very useful
4) sdancers are so important imo... if i wasnt lvl 99, i'd be so strapped for points (upon getting lvl 99, that 1 extra point pumped my lvl 19 mb to lvl 20mb....) i couldnt afford to give up a single point (well i could give up 2 if i didnt stat for dflight, but i did). if u dont use dancers, at least use gores or res boots.
5) cb is useful vs high life opponents and mirror matches mainly - i only use vs bvcs and ghost v ghost... against a bva i'd attemp to use 65fcr and l8z him - but even so dont expect a win
This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 10 2011 09:03am