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#431
Apr 27 2009 01:36pm
Quote (Advariel @ Mon, 27 Apr 2009, 21:34)
Yup, sorcs are meant to be a fragile class.  Ever since classic, they've been a fragile class.  They're not meant to tank, ES was just there to help survivability.


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this is exactly why some es sorces tank about 5-6 hammers, when barbs generally die by 4
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Apr 27 2009 01:36pm
Quote (Advariel @ Mon, 27 Apr 2009, 21:34)
Yup, sorcs are meant to be a fragile class.  Ever since classic, they've been a fragile class.  They're not meant to tank, ES was just there to help survivability.

The usefulness of a sorc is being able to nimbly dodge and lay down attacks without being hit.


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Apr 27 2009 01:36pm
Quote (darkkobra @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 07:32pm)
why the fuck would you need kiras, thul´d monarch or anything else on a bvc? Get good and you will be able to kill coldsorcs while using ONLY 2 ravens (without ANY stack)

The fact that you have to think about using thawing potions just made me giggle ^_^


Why not use thawing potions? If you bother to, its +50% resists for pubby games. If you're gonna go cry bm to your mommy, it really doesn't matter when you have 450% resist without them.
The reason his build would need kiras / resist gear and that kind of shit is because he uses max damage charms instead of resists, and therefore dies in 3 hits to a good blizzard.


Sure, I can probably kill most blizz sorcs without ever letting them hit me once. But why give them the chance to win? I don't like giving my opponents even a chance to win in any duel. They should be outclassed and outplayed at every single turn. What good is your BvC that gets shredded by cold sorcs, fohers, auradins, V/T's & poison necros? Aren't those all caster builds? IMO its bad enough that a bvc can lose to a bvb. 1 weakness is more than enough, and you're adding in about 5 or 6 by not stacking resistances
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#434
Apr 27 2009 01:36pm
Sup guiz. Came back from my walk outside with my girl. Really beautiful day outside here in nyc, 70F here, bright and sunny, just wonderful.

btw thanks for keeping this thread up so I can get some more laughs. reading the past 20 pages I missed while out on my walk.
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Apr 27 2009 01:38pm
Quote (clan_iraq @ Mon, 27 Apr 2009, 21:36)
Why not use thawing potions? If you bother to, its +50% resists for pubby games. If you're gonna go cry bm to your mommy, it really doesn't matter when you have 450% resist without them.
The reason his build would need kiras / resist gear and that kind of shit is because he uses max damage charms instead of resists, and therefore dies in 3 hits to a good blizzard.


Sure, I can probably kill most blizz sorcs without ever letting them hit me once. But why give them the chance to win? I don't like giving my opponents even a chance to win in any duel. They should be outclassed and outplayed at every single turn. What good is your BvC that gets shredded by cold sorcs, fohers, auradins, V/T's & poison necros? Aren't those all caster builds? IMO its bad enough that a bvc can lose to a bvb. 1 weakness is more than enough, and you're adding in about 5 or 6 by not stacking resistances


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Apr 27 2009 01:38pm
Quote (Ziecheik @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 07:36pm)
Sup guiz. Came back from my walk outside with my girl. Really beautiful day outside here in nyc, 70F here, bright and sunny, just wonderful.

btw thanks for keeping this thread up so I can get some more laughs. reading the past 20 pages I missed while out on my walk.


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Apr 27 2009 01:39pm
Quote (Ziecheik @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 07:36pm)
Sup guiz. Came back from my walk outside with my girl. Really beautiful day outside here in nyc, 70F here, bright and sunny, just wonderful.

btw thanks for keeping this thread up so I can get some more laughs. reading the past 20 pages I missed while out on my walk.


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#438
Apr 27 2009 01:40pm
Quote (clan_iraq @ Mon, 27 Apr 2009, 22:36)
Why not use thawing potions? If you bother to, its +50% resists for pubby games. If you're gonna go cry bm to your mommy, it really doesn't matter when you have 450% resist without them.
The reason his build would need kiras / resist gear and that kind of shit is because he uses max damage charms instead of resists, and therefore dies in 3 hits to a good blizzard.


Sure, I can probably kill most blizz sorcs without ever letting them hit me once. But why give them the chance to win? I don't like giving my opponents even a chance to win in any duel. They should be outclassed and outplayed at every single turn. What good is your BvC that gets shredded by cold sorcs, fohers, auradins, V/T's & poison necros? Aren't those all caster builds? IMO its bad enough that a bvc can lose to a bvb. 1 weakness is more than enough, and you're adding in about 5 or 6 by not stacking resistances


What's the point in dueling when there is no challenge?
If you use 2x ravens without stack, your bvc wont get shredded by cold sorcs, no way, unless they totally outplay you. If they do, then you deserved to lose
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#439
Apr 27 2009 01:40pm
Quote (sylvannos @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 07:34pm)

37x 3/20/20's w/ max mastery and max ww w/ +5 skills (torch, anni, battle command) is 444 damage (if I calculated right).

Imo that's quite a bit (not saying it's "teh best," but something to consider).


No matter what gear you use, no matter what skills, etc etc etc, if you're using a 450 damage grief, and you add +111 max damage, thats only +13% average damage on top of it. So that 444 damage you added is just +13% on top of your 3500 damage whirlwind (it should be higher than 444 & 3500, but the ratio is always exactly the same, 13%)

So sure, its a fair bit of damage, but its not enough to make a difference, whereas stacked resistances is life/death against the relevant char builds (auradins, fohers, vts, cold sorcs, psn necros, etc)
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#440
Apr 27 2009 01:40pm
Tudey stop being a ninja
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