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Jul 29 2009 02:48pm
Quote (Ziecheik @ Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 20:40)
uh why? I don't get your reasoning. whats wrong with an alternate method of equipping claws to have a different combined wsm? it's in the game. it's just an option, there are reasons to use wsm bug setups and reasons to use faster claws and hit the bp on standard equipping, nothing imba about it.

Also eth bug chaos is not good cause it's rare, thats a silly concept, its good cause its.. a good claw. good damage. powerful. good in gameplay. etc.
players have access to both eth glitch suwayyahs and 3venom/3ls/x runics or gt, its not like players can't stash both claws and compare..


Just simply because I believe I can play without using such bugs.
And since Im not rly pub player, only tvt, so I prefered to use switch with shield and stuff like that.

I admit it has really nice damage, but I still see 3x1-3 possible skill pts more worthy if they are correct ones.

Quote (Bryant @ Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 20:51)
That coming from you is very ironic.


There's alot of irony floating in the air today then.

This post was edited by Machinae on Jul 29 2009 02:52pm
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Jul 29 2009 02:51pm
Quote (Machinae @ Wed, Jul 29 2009, 01:33pm)
I never mentioned wsg, only wsm.
Get your words correct before you flame me about something I didn't do.

Im simply against using such bug to get IAS; I see nothing wrong about saying that.
My opinion is that eth bug chaos is only worthy cuz it's rare, not because it's useful, and I doubt I change my mind about it.

Why do you post a freaking guide if you can't handle negative feedback ?



Look who's talking. Can't see much of intelligent words coming from your side.


That coming from you is very ironic.
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Jul 29 2009 02:52pm
Quote (Machinae @ Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 23:48)
Just simply because I believe I can play without using such bugs.
And since Im not rly pub player, only tvt, so I prefered to use switch with shield and stuff like that.

I admit it has really nice damage, but I still see 3x1-3 possible skill pts more worthy if they are correct ones.


then dont use wsm bug

its only really essential on cheap 102fcr trappers since you'd need an expensive 45ias claw without wsm bugging
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Jul 29 2009 03:02pm
Quote (Machinae @ Wed, Jul 29 2009, 08:48pm)
Just simply because I believe I can play without using such bugs.
And since Im not rly pub player, only tvt, so I prefered to use switch with shield and stuff like that.

how is this bug any different from all the other bugs used duel after duel and allowed by pvp leagues. It's just another feature of the game and how assassin claw speed works with different equipping. nothing wrong with it, just wasnt put to use by the masses until recently. not that people would ever have had a problem with it, just wasn't very well known back then.


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I admit it has really nice damage, but I still see 3x1-3 possible skill pts more worthy if they are correct ones.

nah, if you played around with a high physical damage claw for whirl you'd like that over 3venom/3ls as well. (at least in scenarios where you aren't using a shield switch)
you do have a point with switching to ss for a team setup, in that case it makes sense to use a non wsm bug setup, not because there is anything wrong with wsm bugging, but just because of what you are trying to do by not using it.

btw there is a way to use wsm bugging and switching, its not something you can pull off on a hybridsin however unless you happen to have claws that meet a very specific condition. doesn't really work for wwsins cause of chaos offhand usually being suwayyah and lower req than the primary fools claw.
It was made to work on a trapper by wsm bugging using a battle cestus offhand and a primary claw bootside with +dex jewels used to meet the bc req. What would happen is the bc would not equip itself until the primary claw was equipped, and in this way the setup self wsm bugged every time he switched, so he was able to use a switch for team duels and wsg in duels while using a wsm bug c/c setup for easier ias bps on his trapper.
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Jul 29 2009 03:03pm
wsm bug = bm

also all other bugs like desynchronizing, wsg and mindblast ~~
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Jul 29 2009 03:05pm
Quote (neoK @ Wed, Jul 29 2009, 09:03pm)
wsm bug = bm

also all other bugs like desynchronizing, wsg and mindblast ~~


I was told before that guided on sin is bm cause sins aren't supposed to have guided normally. yy. and vouch mb bmness. it's like the same letters. mb and bm.
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Jul 29 2009 03:06pm
troll busted :wacko:

ps. hiho
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Quote (Ziecheik @ Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 21:02)
nah, if you played around with a high physical damage claw for whirl you'd like that over 3venom/3ls as well. (at least in scenarios where you aren't using a shield switch)
you do have a point with switching to ss for a team setup, in that case it makes sense to use a non wsm bug setup, not because there is anything wrong with wsm bugging, but just because of what you are trying to do by not using it.


To be honest, is it SO hard to believe that someone just simply doesn't want to use such bug and prefers using normal and faster chaos instead ?
I see your reasoning; some ppl likes physical damage and some people doesn't.
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Jul 29 2009 03:08pm
yeah everyone good prefers to have high physical dmg as well

almost everyone on eu on low budget uses wsm bug
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Jul 29 2009 03:13pm
Quote (Machinae @ Wed, Jul 29 2009, 09:06pm)
To be honest, is it SO hard to believe that someone just simply doesn't want to use such bug and prefers using normal and faster chaos instead ?
I see your reasoning; some ppl likes physical damage and some people doesn't.


well if you don't want to use the bug go ahead, however you want to build your char, some players like building for mf nothing wrong with that either.

you were trying to make it sound earlier like there is something wrong with players using wsm bug setups, like there is something wrong with just putting claws on backwards to get different combined wsm amounts. just another feature of how assassins work.. not game breaking, allowed by leagues, still some reasons to go with standard setups. nothing wrong with it just cause its called a bug.
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