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Jan 12 2010 05:15pm
Quote (Kisssofdeath @ Jan 13 2010 02:13am)
Not a problem.  I have tried everything you have said.  Armor, weapons ect.  You talk all about numbers and stat BS. but you fail to know what actually works in the game.  I bet you never tried Dream.  You find one thing that work and its the LAW.  LOL, I experiement with a lot of different setups and a lot of different setups will work.  For certain builds, I know for a fact what works and what doesnt.  Just because I started posting a few days ago doesnt mean anything.  But I understand thats how most new people are treated anyway so it doesnt suprise me.  I guess what I should do is agree to all of what you said.  Hey, if that puts you higher on YOUR pedestal then I agree and you are our saviour to bad builds.

Say what you want  I have said my peace and done with this thread.  I have  made my point and have nothing else to say to your "my way or the highway" type attitude.


You really prefer a dumbass aura boost over a 35cb/30fhr/15ds helm? on a zealot???

Denying gulli is denying common sense.

This post was edited by Synonym on Jan 12 2010 05:16pm
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Jan 12 2010 05:18pm
Quote (Kisssofdeath @ Jan 13 2010 12:13am)
Not a problem.  I have tried everything you have said.  Armor, weapons ect.  You talk all about numbers and stat BS. but you fail to know what actually works in the game.  I bet you never tried Dream.  You find one thing that work and its the LAW.  LOL, I experiement with a lot of different setups and a lot of different setups will work.  For certain builds, I know for a fact what works and what doesnt.  Just because I started posting a few days ago doesnt mean anything.  But I understand thats how most new people are treated anyway so it doesnt suprise me.  I guess what I should do is agree to all of what you said.  Hey, if that puts you higher on YOUR pedestal then I agree and you are our saviour to bad builds.

Say what you want  I have said my peace and done with this thread.  I have  made my point and have nothing else to say to your "my way or the highway" type attitude.


let's say it like this

I am not a fan of castrating a build.

you can put dream on a convzealot, to use it on that build makes sense but not on a fanazealot.

if we talk about all the things that work in the game, we don#t have to write any guides about items at all ( see ironman HC naked UT runs and so on)

one can get through hell with pretty much every build selffound or with limits (sensitiveskin anyone?)

however
you write a guide about a char to basiccally show all facets of the char, however this does not mean that you choose things which do not make the char better at all...

one can play a bonemancer with 0 + skills and get through the game.. is there any real reason to do it?..
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Quote (Kisssofdeath @ Jan 12 2010 04:05pm)
I dont have time to read this entire post and will not.  I based what I said from your opening post.  If you made changes then point me there and I will read that one.

It appears you have double standards as what you are saying above differs from your original post.
COH was ok when you mentioned it as your second armor but now you say its not really a good armor.

You mention duel leach ring as your second ring...but now we dont need it??  Really double standard to suite yourself when the need comes.  Both the armor and rings were your choice but now they are not any good.  lol funny.

Why do you fail to mention the other aspects of the runeword Dream?  You FAILED to mention:

10% chance to cast confuse, which monsters will not attack you.
Lvl 15 Holy shock.  Well last time I checked, some damage was better than no damage.  Besides it does add around 400 damage to your weapon.
10 to Vitality
5-20% resist.  My 3 Dreams made good with 16,17 and 18 resist.
12-25% MF
Around 200 more Defence
An increase in Max life of 5%
A large amount if mana increase

All of that is useful and found on Dream will not on Guilm.  I can get a high lvl of CS and CB without the use of Guilm helm.  Honestly Guilm helm is not that good.  I have played both a lot.  Its not a bad helm....just not near the best as YOU say it is. But you wont admit that and I dont expect you to with your type of know-it-all attitude.

I forgot to mention boots.  Gores are nice but for PvM Travs are the only real choice  I would put Travs in front of Gores.

The only real place CB and Critical Strike makes any difference is with high lvl bosses.  Most monsters are killed with 1-2 hits anyway.

If you are gonna post a guide you need to learn to accept constructive criticism.  You should know that by now.


Yes i'm sure your time is so valuable which is why you were on jsp. It's kind of common sense that a ring with dual leach would be a plus but do you really think you need ml on a zealot?

1. Guli > dream unless you go get stacked.
2. Phoenix = lol

But who fucking cares it's for pvm nn to qq so much.
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Jan 17 2010 02:34am
Quote (Kisssofdeath @ Jan 13 2010 05:07am)
Well, Hmm let me see.  Going back to the very first page and reading,

Guillaume`s Face is by far NOT the best helm there is.  That depends on a lot of things.  Personally I think Dream is a much better helm.  Again, I have used them both.
Armor...I agree either Fort or COH will work nice. I have used both.
Shield, I have used them all and currently use a Phoenix as my main shield.  Also before anyone slams Phoenix I dont give a rats ass, it works for me and  I like it.  My base shield had 45 resist.
Gloves,.. I agree LOH and Dracs are both excellent choices.  I also use a pair of Upped perfect 20% bloodfist too.  I have used all 3.
Belts...its hard to beat TGod.  I use it on my barb, Zeal pally and fury druid.
Rings,..I agree.  Raven is a must have and I also have duel leach stat ring on this guy.
Ammy I agree, Highlord has worked best for me.  I have tried others.  This really depends on what you need or are lacking in such as resist.
Weapon,..GriefZ will out kill a DeathZ anytime any day.  The EdeathZ is good dont get me wrong it also will kill Baal quicker with the 50% CB but nothing in the game compaires to GriefZ.  I say this because I have all the runewords in Zerkers and have tried them all with different setups.  My zeal pally is lvl 91.5  Ill be happy to show all my axes if anyone cares to see them.  Ill be on US East ladder tonight.  Kisssofdeath is this accounts name

I dont have any trouble killing PI monsters with my grief, Dream and Phoenix setup. Not any trouble what-so-ever.  For Obv. Knights and IM I simply swith to a bow, either Faith, Wrath or lovely and talented 5 guided arrow Widowmaker.  This character has no trouble running any part of the game solo.  I dont even have a pally torch.  Again, Ill be on US East ladder tonight.  Kisssofdeath is this accounts name


Dream is garbage compared to guillames, dream works some of the time, and has limited use, guillames always works and has an open socket for versatility, you are clueless.
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Jan 20 2010 03:18pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ 17 Jan 2010 09:34)
Dream is garbage compared to guillames


to determine which is better, u need to do the math cause it isnt obvious. the 15% ds from guillaumes alone will give u ~700-1000 avg dmg depending on your overall setup while lvl15 holy shock aura gives u from 324 (unsynergized) to 1102 (with lvl20 resist lightning) avg dmg. not to forget 35% cb and an open socket in guillaumes. so all in all, if u aim for a straight physical dmg build, go for guillaumes, and if u want the most overall dmg, use dream helmet+shield+full synergies. just dream helmet will surely do, but is inefficient.
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Quote (achimachim @ Jan 20 2010 10:18pm)
to determine which is better, u need to do the math cause it isnt obvious. the 15% ds from guillaumes alone will give u ~700-1000 avg dmg depending on your overall setup while lvl15 holy shock aura gives u from 324 (unsynergized) to 1102 (with lvl20 resist lightning) avg dmg. not to forget 35% cb and an open socket in guillaumes. so all in all, if u aim for a straight physical dmg build, go for guillaumes, and if u want the most overall dmg, use dream helmet+shield+full synergies. just dream helmet will surely do, but is inefficient.


dude you miss the point that you boost physical damage
that you can leech from physical damage
that crushing blow can easily mean more than 1000 hitpoints/trigger
that you have decrepefy and thus boost physical damage (and thus easily get more out of it than a 20 points synergized monodream)
by the way.. I don't see any conviction there or -lres on fanazealot gear
and I don't really see the 20 points for resist lightning either ^^

and 700-1000 hmm let's see

a grief does ~ 370 average as minimum (that without additional maxdam from inventory, which does easily put it ofer 400)
15% ds with a normal build (aka no real + skills, no fortitude) has 1000% off weapon ed, so 15% ds are ~ 300% ed

so we are at at least1100 extra damage, let#s throw in a fortitude, so
1300% off weapon ed, aka 15% chance to deal damage with 2800% off weapon ed, aka gulli = 420% off weapon ed
which would easily result in~ 1600 average damage
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