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Jan 19 2012 07:13am
Quote (RuffDooD @ Jan 19 2012 12:22am)
is fury of chaos any good if you can't get your hands on GChaos?


GFury*

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Quote (RuffDooD @ Jan 19 2012 09:13am)
GFury*


fools > reg 3/3/3 fury > fury of chaos > gfury > reg no skill fury

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Jan 19 2012 10:29pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ 19 Jan 2012 07:57)
fools > reg 3/3/3 fury > fury of chaos > gfury > reg no skill fury

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Fools is pretty unnecessary against opponents without high defense.
Unless you have one of those ridiculous 2/3 Fools, swapping out with a 3/3 Fury wouldn't be a bad idea at all for specific duels.
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Jan 20 2012 07:54am
Quote (young2093 @ Jan 20 2012 12:29am)
Fools is pretty unnecessary against opponents without high defense.
Unless you have one of those ridiculous 2/3 Fools, swapping out with a 3/3 Fury wouldn't be a bad idea at all for specific duels.


hybrid sins have like 4-6k AR chaos side... (mine has like 6k+ or so but thats only cuz i have expensive gear that the majority of people dont have access to)

U want at least 7k+ for consistent ww damage. anything too low will have low cth, even vs 2000 def casters - so the boost in AR makes a diff vs both high def guys but not excluded to this

and ofc u would want a 2/3 fools... if u cant get ur hands on a fools, i would just use a 3/3/3 fury. no point in using a non + ls skill claw on hybrid
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Jan 30 2012 09:48pm
Do you guys know how much IAS % is needed after nec golem slow/dec + 10% slow on arachnid to achieve the 9 fpa trap playing speed? Or how does it work?

Currently I'm using Suwayyah Chaos + feral fool's/feral Fury combo, and after wsm bug need 5% ias, with highlords I can hit the 9FPA. So I am wondering how does the arach 10% slow, Nec golem slow/decrepify come into play?

Can I counter the effects with enough wsm speed (i.e suwayyah + rt/gt wsm bugged) or stacking ias? Or can you affect it at all?


also, in 102 fcr setup using Griffon's, what would be best to socket it with? Since using fcr amu i'd lose the ias from HL, should I just socket it with 15ias/x jool?

Who will I be using 102 fcr setup versus? Does it hinder me if the griffon's doesnt have a Cham in it? Do I even need Cannot Be Frozen mod in 102 fcr setup?

thx for answers :)>
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Do you guys know how much IAS % is needed after nec golem slow/dec + 10% slow on arachnid to achieve the 9 fpa trap playing speed? Or how does it work?

Currently I'm using Suwayyah Chaos + feral fool's/feral Fury combo, and after wsm bug need 5% ias, with highlords I can hit the 9FPA. So I am wondering how does the arach 10% slow, Nec golem slow/decrepify come into play?

Can I counter the effects with enough wsm speed (i.e suwayyah + rt/gt wsm bugged) or stacking ias? Or can you affect it at all?


also, in 102 fcr setup using Griffon's, what would be best to socket it with? Since using fcr amu i'd lose the ias from HL, should I just socket it with 15ias/x jool?

Who will I be using 102 fcr setup versus? Does it hinder me if the griffon's doesnt have a Cham in it? Do I even need Cannot Be Frozen mod in 102 fcr setup?

thx for answers :)>


vs necs u use bos so who cares

Lo/Shael/15ias40ed

This post was edited by MoXeR on Jan 31 2012 08:01am
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Jan 31 2012 04:24pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ 20 Jan 2012 07:54)
hybrid sins have like 4-6k AR chaos side... (mine has like 6k+ or so but thats only cuz i have expensive gear that the majority of people dont have access to)

U want at least 7k+ for consistent ww damage. anything too low will have low cth, even vs 2000 def casters - so the boost in AR makes a diff vs both high def guys but not excluded to this

and ofc u would want a 2/3 fools... if u cant get ur hands on a fools, i would just use a 3/3/3 fury. no point in using a non + ls skill claw on hybrid


Your last statement is pretty condescending towards the rest of it...
Just because you can't get a 2/3 Fools, you're going to not use a Fools at all?
I'd say first and foremost, the base claw/hitting your breakpoints/and making sure you get 50% OWs would be more important, and then focusing on adding benefits to your Venom/Lightning Sentry.

4-6k is perfectly fine with a 3/3/3 Fury, you will have 66% OWs and up to 220~% ED, against opponents with very low defense.


I also couldn't help but notice you list Highlords as your amulet, after arguing with me and others forever about it's effectiveness. What made you change your mind?

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Quote (young2093 @ Jan 31 2012 03:24pm)
Your last statement is pretty condescending towards the rest of it...
Just because you can't get a 2/3 Fools, you're going to not use a Fools at all?
I'd say first and foremost, the base claw/hitting your breakpoints/and making sure you get 50% OWs would be more important, and then focusing on adding benefits to your Venom/Lightning Sentry.

4-6k is perfectly fine with a 3/3/3 Fools, you will have 66% OWs and up to 220~% ED, against opponents with very low defense.


I also couldn't help but notice you list Highlords as your amulet, after arguing with me and others forever about it's effectiveness. What made you change your mind?


WAT?
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Quote (Bryant @ 31 Jan 2012 16:31)
WAT?


lol fixed!
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Jan 31 2012 04:45pm
nvm

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