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The benefits of extra dexterity don't stop at AR. For what little it is worth, extra dexterity also boosts your defense. If you're running FK, which I prefer versus a zealer, you're also getting a damage bonus per dexterity point.

There is a balance to be maintained. My personal take is to find an amount of life that you're comfortamble with, varying per what you know of your opponent, and pump the rest into dexterity.
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Adding for personal reference / calcing DPS:

7/4/4/4/4 frame fury = 5.43 attacks per second
9/5/5/5/5 frame fury = 4.31 attacks per second
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Quote (Cambria @ Aug 31 2018 08:35am)
The benefits of extra dexterity don't stop at AR. For what little it is worth, extra dexterity also boosts your defense. If you're running FK, which I prefer versus a zealer, you're also getting a damage bonus per dexterity point.

There is a balance to be maintained. My personal take is to find an amount of life that you're comfortamble with, varying per what you know of your opponent, and pump the rest into dexterity.


I would definitely calculate whether or not the defense gained would offset the life lost.

Funny enough, it may just balance out. If you gain enough defense to prevent an extra hit over the course of the duel, and your opponent is pumping out damage equal to the life you lost, then it's a wash.

So you really need to know your opponent's average damage and attack rating to know whether more defense is better than more life. Fortunately, there aren't that many different builds and it should be pretty easy to come up with an average paladin attack rating and damage. Then use the calculator here to check hit %: http://www.democracyresources.com/d2calc

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I would definitely calculate whether or not the defense gained would offset the life lost.

Funny enough, it may just balance out. If you gain enough defense to prevent an extra hit over the course of the duel, and your opponent is pumping out damage equal to the life you lost, then it's a wash.

So you really need to know your opponent's average damage and attack rating to know whether more defense is better than more life. Fortunately, there aren't that many different builds and it should be pretty easy to come up with an average paladin attack rating and damage. Then use the calculator here to check hit %: http://www.democracyresources.com/d2calc



Melee at this point has been watered down that it’s easy enough to know or expect what what your opponent would be using. It really comes down to know whether or not the non-fury opponent is running fortitude or not.
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Melee at this point has been watered down that it’s easy enough to know or expect what what your opponent would be using. It really comes down to know whether or not the non-fury opponent is running fortitude or not.


There's a wide difference between dueling prudence and shaft as well.
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this thread really got me withdrawing for fury pn/1 duels. I played endlessly with different builds/stats, but never knew the maths that went behind it other than avg dmg. very interesting stuff.

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this thread really got me withdrawing for fury pn/1 duels. I played endlessly with different builds/stats, but never knew the maths that went behind it other than avg dmg. very interesting stuff.


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Come back! I had my account jacked and my lvl 99 deleted so I'm a botdz druid currently.


Dude... Wish I wouldn't have parted mine out. Woulda donated to you. Rip
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Dude... Wish I wouldn't have parted mine out. Woulda donated to you. Rip


It's OK. One of these days we'll get a remaster and enough people will rejoin the game that a botdz will be just fine.
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