Look, withought ever even looking into the calculations further (which I will for the sake of this silly shit)
I am telling you right now that GriefZ hits alot harder than a Death Cleaver
And that +400 raw damage is added in the exact same that all +whole number is added
Let me give you the simple equation:

Originally Posted by Arreat Summit

Calculating Minimum Side Damage = (Weapon Minimum Damage + (+x To Minimum Damage)) * (1 + StatsBonus + (+x% Enhanced Damage) / 100) * Modifier

Calculating Maximum Side Damage = (Weapon Maximum Damage + (+x To Maximum Damage)) * (1 + StatsBonus + (+x% Enhanced Damage) / 100) * Modifier

Grief in this case would be adding the +400 to both that min side and that max side, as +whole number damage

I'll look up the general stats of a barb and we'll get conclusive with this but for now I'll leave it to this equation
Too early in the morning to be getting into this for me atm
Telling you, a GriefZ is going to hit alot harder than an EDC



You guys seem to think that +400 isn't doing much?
Why does Smite hit so hard then?

This post was edited by Habakkuk22 on Mar 13 2012 10:45am

greif is bm in gm melee for a reason... lol

Exactly




This:



Try joining in on the discussion rather than posting spam
Spamming a good debate is trashy




You guys ought to try explaining something
Rather than posting funny pictures
Honestly I am not seeing numbers to disprove/prove anything
Only silly images being posted



And in PvP, I can well say this
GriefZ hits very hard
Death Cleavers do not

This post was edited by Habakkuk22 on Mar 13 2012 11:04am

GreifZ also ignores Target defense.
Thats why Smite hurts so much... besides that Smite never misses...
And Also if the Death Cleaver was better you would see everyone looking for one.
They arent.
They use GreifZ in PVP for a REASON.

yes because it has a chance to cast venom on it, and having a few hundred non physical damage ( as melee's have like -60 res ) is bm



Yes the reason is they dont know how the game works, tudey does know and he uses EDC

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Mar 13 2012 11:11am

During ladder resets, every Barbarian is using a BeastZ + Death Cleaver (or even EDC) to get started

Then guess what happens?

They eventually get a +400 GriefZ to replace the Death Cleaver and then they become dangerous



You know they sell and get rid of that EDC for a reason once the GriefZ comes into play

This post was edited by Habakkuk22 on Mar 13 2012 11:14am

Hmm...



In his profile ( http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=292107 ) you'll find a barb vs necro video, that I believe he made to demonstrate the balanced build in action. Watch the vid and then reassess your opinion on its effectiveness.