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Almost finished my 2.5 Telebowa set.

This is the best Bowzon spec for P1.

2/18FCR Ammy + Arach. This makes it 68FCR bp on bowside.

Added Cham on Mercs Gface and he's finished.

Pretty much done, need 1 more 3/ar/life sc to finish up the inventory as well.


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Nov 21 2022 05:43pm
Quote (KimSulki84 @ Nov 17 2022 06:49pm)
1. Max ar life!
2. Enough vital for 800 life then full dex



Follow up question! I decided to get a stash of max lifers as well if i wanted to switch from frw. With the life charms + BO, im sitting at ~1800 life, which im more than happy with. I did pretty okay in pub pvp games with 700 life, but the extra frw didnt help me as much as i thought, so a bit more life to tank another hit or two sounded like a good idea.

1) I presume you meant 800 life before charms and BO? Or just before BO
2) Do you prefer life over FRW due to the FRW only being beneficial in very specific matchups? Like outrunning bone spirits or non-tele/non-charging people?

Since this is my PvE character, ill probably keep it glass cannon in the stat department. But may reallocate a bit in the future if needed.
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Follow up question! I decided to get a stash of max lifers as well if i wanted to switch from frw. With the life charms + BO, im sitting at ~1800 life, which im more than happy with. I did pretty okay in pub pvp games with 700 life, but the extra frw didnt help me as much as i thought, so a bit more life to tank another hit or two sounded like a good idea.

1) I presume you meant 800 life before charms and BO? Or just before BO
2) Do you prefer life over FRW due to the FRW only being beneficial in very specific matchups? Like outrunning bone spirits or non-tele/non-charging people?

Since this is my PvE character, ill probably keep it glass cannon in the stat department. But may reallocate a bit in the future if needed.


Wait if you are talking about PVP you need to go max vital.

For PvM, no vitality and no use of CTA.
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Nov 21 2022 06:24pm
Quote (KimSulki84 @ Nov 21 2022 03:50pm)
Wait if you are talking about PVP you need to go max vital.

For PvM, no vitality and no use of CTA.


yea moreso PvP. PvM you can get away with almost anything, to a certain degree. To your point, I read a guide that said to go glass cannon so you learn to dodge, then respec to buff up life. It did suck to sometimes get caught by a BvC and 1 shot lol, but it made it exciting. The extra dex probably only saved 1-3 shots to finish off most ppl anyways, so I can see better benefit of life over slight damage. If I got more serious about PvP, I'd probably need to change my helm + armor, I'm losing out on DR res AND more damage using the pretty Jewelers armor with a diamond Faith.

What do you usually like on your switch for PvM, Harmony? Hm. I wonder if they have amp damage wands, that would be kind of neat instead of using atmas.
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yea moreso PvP. PvM you can get away with almost anything, to a certain degree. To your point, I read a guide that said to go glass cannon so you learn to dodge, then respec to buff up life. It did suck to sometimes get caught by a BvC and 1 shot lol, but it made it exciting. The extra dex probably only saved 1-3 shots to finish off most ppl anyways, so I can see better benefit of life over slight damage. If I got more serious about PvP, I'd probably need to change my helm + armor, I'm losing out on DR res AND more damage using the pretty Jewelers armor with a diamond Faith.

What do you usually like on your switch for PvM, Harmony? Hm. I wonder if they have amp damage wands, that would be kind of neat instead of using atmas.


PvM, full dex with wizspike and lidless or spirit on offhand for faster teleport or harmony or najs staff for walkzon.

glass cannon for pvp is dumb move. you can't dodge stomps. the good duels will need full vitality always.

full bowzon is not good for pvp and you lose nothing by running hybrid so i always recommend jav+stormshield on switch. it's just too good. you get 35 dr from stormshield or 43 dr if you Ber it or 50dr if you use dungo.
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Nov 21 2022 06:59pm
Quote (KimSulki84 @ Nov 21 2022 04:46pm)
PvM, full dex with wizspike and lidless or spirit on offhand for faster teleport or harmony or najs staff for walkzon.

glass cannon for pvp is dumb move. you can't dodge stomps. the good duels will need full vitality always.

full bowzon is not good for pvp and you lose nothing by running hybrid so i always recommend jav+stormshield on switch. it's just too good. you get 35 dr from stormshield or 43 dr if you Ber it or 50dr if you use dungo.


Ah Naj staff, not a bad idea. I dont really PvM much anymore, but will keep that in my back pocket.

Oh I disagree, with the 196% FRW, I definitely can dodge stomp by constantly running LOL. I haven't got caught by a hammerdin, yet. But WW-Sins destroy me. As you said, the good duels will need more life. I've been getting away with glass-cannon due to just pvping randos in pub games. I'll prob give that titans + SS a try, might alleviate some of that anxiety from fighting barbs. I'll need to check out a video or something to see a person doing it properly (might be right there in your sig!)
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Ah Naj staff, not a bad idea. I dont really PvM much anymore, but will keep that in my back pocket.

Oh I disagree, with the 196% FRW, I definitely can dodge stomp by constantly running LOL. I haven't got caught by a hammerdin, yet. But WW-Sins destroy me. As you said, the good duels will need more life. I've been getting away with glass-cannon due to just pvping randos in pub games. I'll prob give that titans + SS a try, might alleviate some of that anxiety from fighting barbs. I'll need to check out a video or something to see a person doing it properly (might be right there in your sig!)


Yeah pub duels are just whatever usually.. you can do anything in there.

A good dueler who knows what they are doing will catch you running and probably one shot you. Ghost sins, barbs. Those are good matchups as a hybrid zon but with dex stacked and no jav shield, it's should be 0-100 haha

Hdin is easy as a zon yes you just need bow and no life

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Nov 21 2022 07:12pm
Essentially same build for PvM as previous ladder? Is there anything new or exciting for PvM Bowa?
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Quote (Knarglegarth @ Nov 21 2022 05:12pm)
Essentially same build for PvM as previous ladder? Is there anything new or exciting for PvM Bowa?


Absolutely nothing.
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