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Aug 15 2022 05:34am
Quote (TheArt0fWar @ Aug 10 2022 12:08am)
How do you calculate them? Sorry if i'm asking a lot of you xD


First you calculate EIAS.
You have to do that for each claw.

EIAS = Floor(120*IAS/(120+IAS)+SkillIas-WSM-SLOW)
Each slow source has an upper cap of 50
Gear is 1 source, holy freeze is another source, golem is another source, decreap is another source, Impale is another source, chilled is another source.
EIAS upper cap is 75 for all, except shapechangers and double wepon attack limited to: Double swing, double throw, frenzy, dragon claw.

Wirlwind FPA each wep:
Assassin With Claws FPA = Roundup(6*256/floor(208*(100+EIAS)/100))-1
Barb 1 handed and 2 handed swords Wirl FPA = Roundup(7*256/floor(256*(100+EIAS)/100))-1
Barb 2 handed weps FPA = Roundup(9*256/floor(256*(100+EIAS)/100))-1

First strike is for free, does not need EIAS etc for that, and that happens on frame 4, nomather wepon type or slow ammounts etc.
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Aug 15 2022 09:10am
I didn't read through all the replies, so forgive me if this has been brought up already, but the ghost recommendations might be slightly off because you assumed the same ias set for each spec.

For one, ghost will use highlords, which puts you just 8 ias shy of the 4fpa bp with suwayyah. That can be made up with a weapon jewel, 2nd helm jewel, belt, or gloves.

Might be worth reevaluating with BoS and some res/DR gear too, idk.

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Aug 15 2022 09:13am
Quote (Necromania @ Aug 15 2022 04:58am)
So new ww nerf for sins



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Aug 15 2022 09:44am
Quote (Evicted @ Aug 15 2022 10:10am)
I didn't read through all the replies, so forgive me if this has been brought up already, but the ghost recommendations might be slightly off because you assumed the same ias set for each spec.

For one, ghost will use highlords, which puts you just 8 ias shy of the 4fpa bp with suwayyah. That can be made up with a weapon jewel, 2nd helm jewel, belt, or gloves.

Might be worth reevaluating with BoS and some res/DR gear too, idk.



The most a suwayyah gets is 40ias. Highlords is 20ias.

Meaning you are still short 23 ias to reach 83.

Which means you need 2x 15ias jewels somewhere.

Which means you need an Eth rep claw with 40/15ias in it and a 15ias jewel in your visio

Or a 2 socket visio with 2x 15ias jewels in it.



Again, that’s assuming your suwayyah has 40ias base.


Neither of which are ideal scenarios.
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Aug 15 2022 12:43pm
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Aug 15 2022 08:44am)
The most a suwayyah gets is 40ias. Highlords is 20ias.

Meaning you are still short 23 ias to reach 83.

Which means you need 2x 15ias jewels somewhere.

Which means you need an Eth rep claw with 40/15ias in it and a 15ias jewel in your visio

Or a 2 socket visio with 2x 15ias jewels in it.



Again, that’s assuming your suwayyah has 40ias base.


Neither of which are ideal scenarios.


Dazer already assumed 15 in circlet btw, so not 23 short but 8 as I said.

The only assumption I'm making is slightly better gear: 2os circlet, 2os fools, or Erep fools all allow you to hit 83.
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Aug 15 2022 12:49pm
Quote (Evicted @ Aug 15 2022 01:43pm)
Dazer already assumed 15 in circlet btw, so not 23 short but 8 as I said.

The only assumption I'm making is slightly better gear: 2os circlet, 2os fools, or Erep fools all allow you to hit 83.



When trying to explain things, assuming a 15ias jewel in a circlet is a very bad way of helping other people understand what the requirements are.

While 40/15ias jewels aren’t much worse than available 30/60/9/9 equivalents on d2r, 40/15ias is much worse than other options such as um or 40/15max (for gvg).

Nor is there many 2os visionary’s or Eth rep claws.

Unless you have an Eth rep claw or 2os visionary, feral > suwayyah.


But the Eth rep suwayyah would still need at least 220ed/fools/40ias to beat a feral with 280+ ED.
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Aug 15 2022 12:54pm
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Aug 15 2022 11:49am)
When trying to explain things, assuming a 15ias jewel in a circlet is a very bad way of helping other people understand what the requirements are.


Brother, you consistently do this thing where you argue with points that a poster isn't making by ignoring the context of their post. Sometimes, I think you make up strawman arguments because you want to be right and for others to be wrong. Maybe worth taking a step back and reflecting on that.
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Aug 15 2022 12:57pm
Quote (Evicted @ Aug 15 2022 01:54pm)
Brother, you consistently do this thing where you argue with points that a poster isn't making by ignoring the context of their post. Sometimes, I think you make up strawman arguments because you want to be right and for others to be wrong. Maybe worth taking a step back and reflecting on that.



You made no mention of a 15ias jewel when you mentioned needing 8ias on a suwayyah after using highlords.

Do you not see how that is confusing to someone that doesn’t know how to gear their sin?

My point is WW sins have always been very complicated and full of people like you spreading misinformation, so then I would come behind and fix all your fuck ups.

Yes I’m right.
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Aug 15 2022 01:18pm
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Anyone willing to help here. Runic talon main hand with chaos(35ias) in it plague (20ias) scissors suwayyah offhand. According to the chart ot would be 5fpa+7fpa/2=6 as a starting point. Is this still 42 ias for traps speed based off my main hand? Also how much ias would I need outside of the 55 on the claws?

This post was edited by Sgtpeppers89 on Aug 16 2022 05:51am
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