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What skills are required for synergies/ what to max?
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Jun 24 2022 04:21pm
Quote (Ziecheik @ Jun 24 2022 07:49pm)
I've actually heard conflicting things about claw mastery and blade skills.

the in game character screen shows a damage and ar boost when claw mastery is increased, but we all know the character screen can not be trusted.
maxroll shows no damage increase from claw mastery being maxed in the character calculator.

someone told me the damage increase works for blade skills but ar and ds% does not? not confirmed.

tbh it's been kind of hard testing these things on closed bnet because of the already wtfbbq high damage of blade skills and a lot of variable factors.
I dont have access to hero edit right now to do some more clear cut tests.

I am finding more success with my last wish setup than I did with my c/c setups using fury and chaos, but I do want to get to the bottom of if claw mastery works or not because I think plague is actually a pretty solid non-fools claw choice with high ed% and ds%. and I have some bf plague claws waiting for me once ladder rolls over.


any input on where I would search for this info?
or if anyone has hero edit would they be willing to test?


Well, i can get hero editor and download d2 here at work i guess, i managed to do lvl 88 to 89 today and it was a struggle. Even though my shaper self tele br's went good with my pathetic low geared shaper wielding Oath etc, its just aint for me to lvl my chars xD i miss lvl service and at least uber xp was better, i managed lvl 93 there once xD

Yes, plague seems viable. I have not had the plessure to try it on d2r other than in maxroll, but i did have a pk version on asgard and even did Singleplayer hardcore p8 self found run true on plugy with one xD but even if i would make it on hero editor it would be hard for me to test dmg as i have zero clue what life monsters have xD
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Quote (PkStart @ Jun 24 2022 09:34pm)
What skills are required for synergies/ what to max?


Bf
Bs
Bs

^^

Blade fury
Blade shield
Blade sentinel
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Bf
Bs
Bs

^^

Blade fury
Blade shield
Blade sentinel


Thank ya kindly
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Jun 25 2022 07:30am
Quote (gel87 @ Jun 24 2022 06:21pm)
Well, i can get hero editor and download d2 here at work i guess, i managed to do lvl 88 to 89 today and it was a struggle. Even though my shaper self tele br's went good with my pathetic low geared shaper wielding Oath etc, its just aint for me to lvl my chars xD i miss lvl service and at least uber xp was better, i managed lvl 93 there once xD

Yes, plague seems viable. I have not had the plessure to try it on d2r other than in maxroll, but i did have a pk version on asgard and even did Singleplayer hardcore p8 self found run true on plugy with one xD but even if i would make it on hero editor it would be hard for me to test dmg as i have zero clue what life monsters have xD


any clue on claw mastery with blade skills?
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Quote (Ziecheik @ Jun 25 2022 03:30pm)
any clue on claw mastery with blade skills?


No sry, have not been able to test.

Not sure how to test though.

If i find the claw with the closest min and max dmg.
Put 1 skill to bf.
Add inzane AR + survival gear, leech and mana stuff.
Add enought min damage via gear to have 1 difference between output min and max.
Have a sc with 100% deadly strike.
Have 12 scs with as many skills to claw mastery as possible which i can place in cube between tests. (7shadows skills/7cm each) = 14*12 = 168 skills.

Then find a enemy and test dmg differnce with scs in cube and scs in inventory.
This way one can check if the damage bonus works properly without thinking of the chance to critic as you always deadly strike instead.

Then place 100% deadly strike sc in cube. And see if the dmg doubles aboutly 1/4 of the times from critic.

How to test ar i dno^^ I guess must be done over a long period of time to see if there is a difference, but with epic low dmg..

This post was edited by gel87 on Jun 25 2022 08:03am
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Thanks, yes seems like ar% dont work. All other seems to work.
But that i could test on d2r :)

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Jun 28 2022 03:13pm
I had a thought on werewolf again, i do no see that its better than a good eth tomb, or a eth botd gt or a eth botd gpa.

However, it might helps some1 else 1 day. I dont have my excel now but i could make a new one.

I know, that with cube in inventory, and 8 skillers, and diadem i end at level 38 werewolf/fury etc.

And if i did calculate all my dps and attack speed needs and had flexible gear who could hit theese breakpoints with overstack for 10% arach slow etc.
However for pvm, one might consider this. And if jalals you easier get 2 more skill, ergo one could remove 2 skillers if needing it for space.
And then you think, but what about Guilaume, the hardest hitting pvm melee helm in the game. This will be handeled.

In matter of fact, if you drop werewolf level all the way down to 34 you will have minimal change. 46ias breakpoint becomes 48, and 68ias breakpoint becomes 70.

So there is our flexibility.

So, it does not matter where ur ias is comming from.
Giant tresher got theese breakpoints on lvl 34 werewolf:
Ias - - fpa - - sumfpa for all 5 attacks:
0 - - 5/4/4/4/7 - - 24
26 - - 5/4/4/4/6 - - 23
48 - - 5/3/3/3/6 - - 20
70 - - 4/3/3/3/6 - - 19
105 - - 4/3/3/3/5 - - 18

So the difference between 48 and 70 is tiny!
Eth death + hl + loh + 15ias jool in Guilaume/helm = 55
In pvp one could run 2 x ias jools in diadem and get the 70ias break(68 cause u should have lvl 38 werewolf...)

In pvp it aint worth it, cause much arach slow, and i dont even choose botd gpa due to this, even though it hit that 4/3/3/3/6 breakpoint which is the same as i would botd gt would. Cause im flexible vs slow even without jool in helm :)

Anyway, this can benefit pvm, espesially ubers if u got some inzane res adds.
Anyway, add gores and ur at up to116% deadly strike + 100% cb + 10% ow. Ofc its capped at 100%.

However, on this build i do not find a way to choose atma's scarab ammu and use pride+might merc... And act5 merc cannot use beast. But one could actually go act1 merc with fana...

So lets up the build for pvm:
Level 15 fana would give us 29 ias for that last breakpoint on gt:
4/3/3/3/5

Gpa would be like this:
26 ias 4/3/3/3/6
46 ias 4/3/3/3/5

However:
Cryptic axe:
26 5/3/3/3/6
42 4/3/3/3/6
68 4/3/3/3/5

So as one can see, you can mix up wepons pretty decent now in pvm.
I would prefer the atma's + eth death gt + Guilaume + faith merc:
- 5 ctc amp (explosive on both physical direct damage and cb, and breaks more immunes)
- 79% deadly strike, 100% cb, 10% ow(ubers stop repl)

Ofc grief pb + stormshield or pheonix is strong as well, and then syntenergy firestorm from pheonix to deal with immunes etc.
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