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Jan 31 2022 06:50am
Quote (Stefbef @ 31 Jan 2022 02:42)
It has been the last 4-5 years trust me, blizzard fucked up in a patch around that time making you absolutely permanently stunlocked when playing 0 fhr in svs, especially vs 25% torches.

We’ve been active in a smite vs smite league for over 2 years now with 8-25 members active at a time, daily. Once 500K+ fg smiters with shako and absolute top notch gear but 0 fhr became absolutely useless and lost matches 10-0 even tho holding the #1 rank on every season before that.

But it might be different in d2r and I agree that before 2018 smiters didn’t need any fhr whatsoever and could aim for 5800 life setup without issues.

Also after 2,4 I’m fairly sure fhr is no longer relevant for nearly every char and especially not for smite vs smite


fhr was def not needed in smite vs smite back in 2012 when I quit d2lod and is also not mandatory now in d2r smite vs smite, it can help vs random firestorm procs tho (tested with all fhr caps up to 48), but with 2.4 changes it will be completely obsolete I guess.
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Quote (od1e @ 31 Jan 2022 13:50)
fhr was def not needed in smite vs smite back in 2012 when I quit d2lod and is also not mandatory now in d2r smite vs smite, it can help vs random firestorm procs tho (tested with all fhr caps up to 48), but with 2.4 changes it will be completely obsolete I guess.



Good to know :) yeah I thought it could be different in d2r

I just know about legacy d2 in 2017+ and the exact patch when they screwed it up.

I’m sure fhr won’t be needed and for d2r especially after 2,4 I’d aim for something like:

Grief pb
Shako ber / 40/20
Jstod ber’s up to 50% dr rest 40/20 or even 30 ed 9 str 9 dex 10 life jewel or as budget 40 ed 9 dex if block is needed.
Gorerider
Dungo
Steelrend or craft gloves (tbh top stat ring + rends > craft gloves + bk, unless u need the ias to cover a certain higher level of holy freeze)
Eni dusk
2 pala 20 fcr amu (dex str life whatever)
10 fcr stat ring

Heck even everyone hating on zaka being bad for svs, I don’t think it’s bad especially on a multihybrid char since it boosts foh or charge ar/dmg and even +2 holy freeze for extra range

Smite dmg might be lower on zaka but it has other purposes
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Jan 31 2022 07:31am
Quote (Stefbef @ 31 Jan 2022 13:59)
Good to know :) yeah I thought it could be different in d2r

I just know about legacy d2 in 2017+ and the exact patch when they screwed it up.

I’m sure fhr won’t be needed and for d2r especially after 2,4 I’d aim for something like:

Grief pb
Shako ber / 40/20
Jstod ber’s up to 50% dr rest 40/20 or even 30 ed 9 str 9 dex 10 life jewel or as budget 40 ed 9 dex if block is needed.
Gorerider
Dungo
Steelrend or craft gloves (tbh top stat ring + rends > craft gloves + bk, unless u need the ias to cover a certain higher level of holy freeze)
Eni dusk
2 pala 20 fcr amu (dex str life whatever)
10 fcr stat ring

Heck even everyone hating on zaka being bad for svs, I don’t think it’s bad especially on a multihybrid char since it boosts foh or charge ar/dmg and even +2 holy freeze for extra range

Smite dmg might be lower on zaka but it has other purposes


zaka is still a cheap and viable choice, especially in VT vs VT matchups since the convicition bug is still present in d2r where higher level conviction negates lower level conviction completely, meaning when you play vs another VT and let's say you have lvl 15 conviction and your enemy does have lvl 16 conviction and you both attack with foh/conv at the same time and both apply conv to eachother, your foh dmg is like you dont have any conv active, but the enemies conv procs on you, so in conclusion you want to aim for same or higher level conviction as your enemy and therefore use zaka or at least +2 rare shield in that match up.

other than that imho phoenix will be the new arena king in 2.4 because the firestorm proc of it will not longer break your smite burst, now think of the smite dmg when using forti and phoenix, thats + 765% ed...

my 2.4 item suggestion would be

grief pb
coa berber
phoenix st knights / res mod (465ed / 400ed 45res)
waterwalks
dungo
crafted 20ias
eni / forti
pala stats ammy / maras
bk / stats ring + raven

if you want telesmites switch gloves for trangs and/or use fcr rings/ammy depending on desired fcr, 48 should be max possible then while maintaining high dr.









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Jan 31 2022 07:34am
Quote (od1e @ 31 Jan 2022 14:31)
zaka is still a cheap and viable choice, especially in VT vs VT matchups since the convicition bug is still present in d2r where higher level conviction negates lower level conviction completely, meaning when you play vs another VT and let's say you have lvl 15 conviction and your enemy does have lvl 16 conviction and you both attack with foh/conv at the same time and both apply conv to eachother, your foh dmg is like you dont have any conv active, but the enemies conv procs on you, so in conclusion you want to aim for same or higher level conviction as your enemy and therefore use zaka or at least +2 rare shield in that match up.

other than that imho phoenix will be the new arena king in 2.4 because the firestorm proc of it will not longer break your smite burst, now think of the smite dmg when using forti and phoenix, thats + 765% ed...

my 2.4 item suggestion would be

grief pb
coa berber
phoenix st knights / res mod (465ed / 400ed 45res)
waterwalks
dungo
crafted 20ias
eni / forti
pala stats ammy / maras
bk / stats ring + raven

if you want telesmites switch gloves for trangs and/or use fcr rings/ammy depending on desired fcr, 48 should be max possible then while maintaining high dr.



Ah yea forgot about the Phoenix stuff, btw u don’t need cnbf for svs since god ba with freeze target * (which applies to stun) doesn’t exist, the only way to get frozen is vs charge which is for an insanely short duration with max cr. And tbh the only palas really “intentionally” hitting are v/c’s, so I’d only use cnbf vs them

In general bk+ stat ring just gives a lot more value, or double Bk or double stat ring, whatever you need tbh
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Jan 31 2022 08:43am
Quote (Stefbef @ 31 Jan 2022 14:34)
Ah yea forgot about the Phoenix stuff, btw u don’t need cnbf for svs since god ba with freeze target * (which applies to stun) doesn’t exist, the only way to get frozen is vs charge which is for an insanely short duration with max cr. And tbh the only palas really “intentionally” hitting are v/c’s, so I’d only use cnbf vs them

In general bk+ stat ring just gives a lot more value, or double Bk or double stat ring, whatever you need tbh



Which applies to smite *
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Jan 31 2022 09:40am
Nk 4 conviction users
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Feb 6 2022 10:22pm
Its really hard to find a 2/20 crafted amulet now thanks to this guide! ha

Any alternative temp I could consider? 2pcombat/20 , 1/20. Or shld i use maras and play without 75fcr bp.
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Feb 6 2022 11:02pm
Quote (m12wh1t3 @ Feb 6 2022 08:22pm)
Its really hard to find a 2/20 crafted amulet now thanks to this guide! ha

Any alternative temp I could consider? 2pcombat/20 , 1/20. Or shld i use maras and play without 75fcr bp.


I just copped 1 for 600 lol, was surprised to find one.
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Quote (Vermillion2 @ Feb 7 2022 01:02pm)
I just copped 1 for 600 lol, was surprised to find one.


Oh damn!

Found some in game going for like 3-4 ber each without any mods...

and its kinda hard to search for specific stuff like that in jsp ha
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Feb 6 2022 11:07pm
Quote (m12wh1t3 @ Feb 6 2022 09:06pm)
Oh damn!

Found some in game going for like 3-4 ber each without any mods...

and its kinda hard to search for specific stuff like that in jsp ha


the one i found was basic 2/20 has a little mana, but if feel ya it was hard to find GL!
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