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Oct 29 2021 11:08am
i just run NM while watching tv, rarely have to even leap unless there's some ungodly combo of mods like cursed, fant, LE, etc.

my gold finder hasnt even beat NM baal and he's level 70.
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Oct 29 2021 11:09am
Quote (Competitive @ Oct 29 2021 06:59pm)
pros and cons as always,

typical pros: free to cast even though its 33% chance, decrep slows (better for crowd control), good for wc damage boost

typical cons: cold damage (chance to break/shatter bodies)

Also, hes probably using 10eg/17mana charms to maintain the 1k mana. would leave him with less res if faced with a conviction council


i dont have issue with conv aura, my merc has. And every merc will always have unless you tele away or kite them one by one. There is no merc build that can survive full hydra spawn while being conv. You need to zone properly and take ale the hits from hydra
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Oct 29 2021 11:09am
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low radius range is annoying

level 8 Amp has such a massive radius compared to decrep it's not even funny. it's the reason i don't use spellsteel, and why i find reaper's really potato

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i dont like saying that y barb is getting xx milion gold per hour. We can have 2-2.5k eg but its based on luck mostly anyway.
I had 0 gold run once. 0 from killing, 0 from horking
I had 1.5m run once
I had 480k from 1 council member once (3 gold piles on kill, another 3 on hork)

right. i don't care about gold from individual runs, i care about average time to gold cap. that's the whole point made in the guide.
i have runs with 200k gold, some with well over 1 million. random is random over a short time span

i still consistently gold cap between 20-22 minutes with 2300GF, and a bit under 20 with 2600~

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Actually the best option i've tried is brand bow on switch. 35% to cast lvl 14amplify when struck. Just go/tele into the biggest group and wait 1-2sec with this bow and whole band on big radius is amplified until end of the run. But runes are Jah Lo Mal Gul so bit pricey.

that's a lot of effort to avoid using gavel, but it's a super cool idea. i kinda wanna mess with this now

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i dont have issue with conv aura, my merc has. And every merc will always have unless you tele away or kite them one by one. There is no merc build that can survive full hydra spawn while being conv. You need to zone properly and take ale the hits from hydra

you can telestomp the conviction aura member & snipe it out, then the merc does whatever.

This post was edited by Exokek on Oct 29 2021 11:12am
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Oct 29 2021 11:15am
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level 8 Amp has such a massive radius compared to decrep it's not even funny. it's the reason i don't use spellsteel, and why i find reaper's really potato

i dont like saying that y barb is getting xx milion gold per hour. We can have 2-2.5k eg but its based on luck mostly anyway.
I had 0 gold run once. 0 from killing, 0 from horking
I had 1.5m run once
I had 480k from 1 council member once (3 gold piles on kill, another 3 on hork)

i don't care about gold from individual runs, i care about average time to gold cap. that's the whole point made in the guide.
i have runs with 200k gold, some with well over 1 million. random is random over a short time span

Actually the best option i've tried is brand bow on switch. 35% to cast lvl 14amplify when struck. Just go/tele into the biggest group and wait 1-2sec with this bow and whole band on big radius is amplified until end of the run. But runes are Jah Lo Mal Gul so bit pricey.

that's a lot of effort to avoid using gavel, but it's a super cool idea. i kinda wanna mess with this now


and you dont have to repair it every run.
i'd suggest you to try this with hero editor in normal diablo before spending 5k for runes, not everybody likes it. Also there is situation someimes when council 'cast' on you instead of hitting and that not activate amplify from brand. Rare situation but happens sometimes
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Oct 29 2021 11:16am
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i dont have issue with conv aura, my merc has. And every merc will always have unless you tele away or kite them one by one. There is no merc build that can survive full hydra spawn while being conv. You need to zone properly and take ale the hits from hydra


correct where you have to zone out the hydra, basically tanking the fire hydra for your merc if you have the res to do so.

you can have your merc survive the conviction council fire hydra if you are using coh on him with res helm...The problem is that you would basically lose out gold per run since a conviction aura council member doesnt appear every run. (but shouldnt apply to your build if you are doing the killing)


@exokek, yes you bascially have to telestomp the conviction aura council first as always

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Oct 29 2021 11:22am
I stopped reading when I saw tele charges amulet instead of enigma
that and gavel of pain :wacko:
also leap is useless

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Oct 29 2021 11:23am
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and you dont have to repair it every run.
i'd suggest you to try this with hero editor in normal diablo before spending 5k for runes, not everybody likes it. Also there is situation someimes when council 'cast' on you instead of hitting and that not activate amplify from brand. Rare situation but happens sometimes

So what's the time to gold cap on average with the warcry damage build? Seems solid.

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I stopped reading when I saw tele charges amulet instead of enigma
that and gavel of pain :wacko:
also leap is useless

:rofl:

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i just run NM while watching tv, rarely have to even leap unless there's some ungodly combo of mods like cursed, fant, LE, etc.

my gold finder hasnt even beat NM baal and he's level 70.


yeah. NM is a great place to farm gold at max goldfind with 0 effort.
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Oct 29 2021 11:43am
tbh, play what works for you, some people like active gold find builds and some like passive.

@Exokek, I would avoid dumping 20 skills into find item. you will hear it from both sides on whether you should of shouldnt. The skills comes down to gearing first and foremost then you put skills in to reach the breakpoint % of the skill you want. There is diminishing return on it as you should know. If you dump skills in and cant reach the next % break point then its wasted skill points
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Oct 29 2021 11:55am
Quote (Exokek @ Oct 29 2021 03:29pm)
You're seriously arguing that people should be using 35% Crushing Blow over Andy's to kill a bunch of white monsters with twice the life total of an Oblivion Knight?
And I'm the one who doesn't understand how CB works and wherre it's useful?
Come on bro. Wake the hell up. You can't be for real right now.

yes, you use the helm that's better. It doesn't matter that guilli is even better against act bosses, it's still better here.

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The Fort Setup has a bit more defense, reducing the odds of being hit by the Super Uniques by 1% more.

wat
you should know that this can't be correct
how do you see that and think "oh yeah that makes sense"
coh merc will get hit about 15%more often than forty, and 60% more often than forty with chilling armor on

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That's it. We're trying to minimize the amount of times where we have to go "Oopsie, Merc exploded due to bad RNG".

by having a merc with no cbf xd

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you don't need CB

you don't need to eat food every day

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