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And go half boxer? Will still reach 3frames frenzy?


I also did some half-boxer test and recording tonight, I'm gonna say if barb goes half fist half wp, the glitched Frenzy speed will be like between 4~5F (not close to 4 or 5, maybe 4.5F)
PB Grief + BOTD CB half-boxer tho only 4.5F maybe, but since in its original way the WW is already 4F, plus a 4.5~4.75F Frenzy, Teleport, I still got a really nice Chaos run experience,

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I guess it has something to do with the delay formula

I think u or s1 told me about this when we in Dex glitch wolf thread right? I will go check this now

This post was edited by Ironboar on Sep 27 2021 01:26am
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I think u may also right, many elements may take part in:

WSM (if use dual wps)
IAS on weapon (a small effect)
Weapon Base
Off-Weapon IAS
IAS from aura
Delay formula
my native attack 6F assumption

Also some premise (at least meet one to trigger):
1. at least one weapon / shield has "- % requirement" mod
2. primary weapon got +dex or +strength mod, and secondary wp needs one of these mods.
3. WSM (for example, BOTD & DEATH duel e CB, need to put BOTD on gloves side to get the wsm ias)

This post was edited by Ironboar on Sep 27 2021 01:38am
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7F Berserk Boxing Teleport Barb - Berserker Axe Grief + Ettin Axe Beast
Glitch: Strength




Main Gears
Berserker Axe Grief
Ettin Axe Beast
Upgraded Arreat's Face with "-15% requirement" socket
6os light weight weapon with 6x Fal

Helm - Upgraded Arreat's Face with "-15% requirement" socket
Armor - DS Enigma
Gloves - 20ias 15-15, rare or crafted
Belt - Arach (fcr for TP)
Boots - non-upped Gore Rider

Jewelries - HL + 2x Raven
BO - HOTO + 6xFal'd wp
Charms - 10-20 Torch + 10-20 Anni[/COLOR]

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add dex first to ur ideal number,
no need to add any str (base 30 + 10 anni + 10 torch + 71 enigma from lvl 95 char + 15 from gloves = 136 total str already)
tho it doesn't show resistance get from upped in red A-face, but got it actually


Berserk & conc fastest is 9F,
IAS from off-wp (not include Aura) is 40ias (gloves + amulet), aura from wp is lvl 9 Fanaticism, final (glitch) Berserk speed is 7F
need 30 more off-wp ias to hit 6F, but the cost is replace armor to ias armor,


This post was edited by Ironboar on Sep 27 2021 02:45am
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Quote (Ironboar @ Sep 27 2021 10:33am)
7F Berserk Boxing Teleport Barb - Berserker Axe Grief + Ettin Axe Beast
Glitch: Strength


https://i.imgur.com/LK6pUPx.png

Main Gears
Berserker Axe Grief
Ettin Axe Beast
Upgraded Arreat's Face with "-15% requirement" socket
6os light weight weapon with 6x Fal

Helm - Upgraded Arreat's Face with "-15% requirement" socket
Armor - DS Enigma
Gloves - 20ias 15-15, rare or crafted
Belt - Arach (fcr for TP)
Boots - non-upped Gore Rider

Jewelries - HL + 2x Raven
BO - HOTO + 6xFal'd wp
Charms - 10-20 Torch + 10-20 Anni[/COLOR]

Others
add dex first to ur ideal number,
no need to add any str (base 30 + 10 anni + 10 torch + 71 enigma from lvl 95 char + 15 from gloves = 136 total str already)
tho it doesn't show resistance get from upped in red A-face, but got it actually


Berserk & conc fastest is 9F,
IAS from off-wp (not include Aura) is 40ias (gloves + amulet), aura from wp is lvl 9 Fanaticism, final (glitch) Berserk speed is 7F
need 30 more off-wp ias to hit 6F, but the cost is replace armor to ias armor,


Could explain more of the reason behind the gear choice?
Why do u need arreat?
Its currently 20fcr/8% dr build.

Why grief ba and ettin beast?

Is the 15str needed from gloves?
Cause on eu nl we got bug belt which adds 15str/25dex/10ias.
2/20/visio diadem can have up to 30str. Can socet up too 2 x ias jools. There is also 20fcr with 3x40ed/15ias. Valk 08 can reach 45ias socet.

I just mean, there is many choices if I just understand the bug myself lol xD

This 6fal wep adds 60str. U can have up to 100str via 2 x bo clubs if needed.
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Could explain more of the reason behind the gear choice?
Why do u need arreat?
Its currently 20fcr/8% dr build.

Why grief ba and ettin beast?

Is the 15str needed from gloves?
Cause on eu nl we got bug belt which adds 15str/25dex/10ias.
2/20/visio diadem can have up to 30str. Can socet up too 2 x ias jools. There is also 20fcr with 3x40ed/15ias. Valk 08 can reach 45ias socet.

I just mean, there is many choices if I just understand the bug myself lol xD

This 6fal wep adds 60str. U can have up to 100str via 2 x bo clubs if needed.


I'd wager he's getting most of his gear from D2GA or such which are pretty limited, which is why in an earlier post I offered to Hero Edit anything he needs. Most intriguing thread(s) I've seen in over 10 years, so I don't mind.
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Sep 27 2021 01:46pm
Mf barb>this
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Sep 27 2021 02:56pm
ok

Upped Arreat face
upped A-face requires high str, also +str on itself, is what we need,
why not G-face this time is: G-face only need 115 str, ez for other combo but here we use Enigma, already got high strength,
why put "-15% require" in it: its str requirement is too high, after "-15% require", it only need 167 str, plus its +str mod, perfect for "glitched equipped"
I'm not say it's a must helm, but for my gear limitation I can only use it, if u have any good heavy rare barb viso u can try too.
its @res, +dex and other useful mods are useful too

forgot to try COA corona, it got 2x sockets and pretty heavy (174 str right?), so I think maybe it works too,

Use Ettin Axe
because I use Enigma here, the lowest total strength I can get is too high, even use 10-20 anni torch,
BA requires 138 str, Ettin requires 145 str,
if I use 2x BA, I can't make the glitch successful:

yes I don't have Ettin Beast single player or Bnet, so use a 5os Runemaster on D2GA with 4x Fal & a Sur (for checking if second weapon all work on Berserk attack, and it works as wel)

Gloves
No we don't need any mods besides +20ias here, but I just wanna save some attribution points here, any 20%ias LOH, or such duel gloves all good.

60str low str required wp instead of 2x BO sticks
Yes 50 str BO stick is definitely better, I use a full Fal wp to represent that,
as long as it can support upped A-face

why not 20fcr Diadem
if this berserker barb can have a 20fcr viso would be nice, but we have to use some heavy +str helm like I said.
so make sure the helm is in red when switch to main, convert the invisible str to plus the invisible +40 str from Beast, to actually equip them all,
if u tried other gears and u can still see the aura or ww effect, wait 3 seconds, they will disappear, because these other methods for this build is unperm.

FCR% & DR% & IAS%


under Lvl 9 aura, 26 ~ 69% off-wp ias we can get 7F,
except a walk build, on Teleport build, no way to reach 6F bp.
highest we can get on it is 50 probably, Fal'd Demonhorn's Edge,

This post was edited by Ironboar on Sep 27 2021 03:09pm
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I made a native attack chart:



Wolf box: wolf or bear form native I believe is way more slower, Fury & Feral Rage don't work.
Paladin 7F bp: that's the reason why no benefit from box smite, smite 6F, glitch made it even worse
Zeal: on a pal, so far I haven't find any way to glitch it, but the most important, it's meaningless, BP of Pal is only 7F, even boxing works, 7F << 4F normal Zeal

Whirlwind: works as usual in half boxer (botd + grief 4F)
Zerk/Conc/Bash barb: can break 9F zerk to 6F if u got enough offwp ias. not big benefit cuz 9F zerk is already powerful, 9F berserk destroys A5 Tower 0.48~0.52 sec, 6F needs 0.2~0.25 sec, not that obvious.
Frenzy: so far only skill get big benefit, 3F (not sure if it's actually 2.5F)

This post was edited by Ironboar on Sep 27 2021 03:57pm
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Quote (Ironboar @ Sep 27 2021 11:45pm)
I made a native attack chart:

https://i.imgur.com/JutlvcS.png

Wolf box: wolf or bear form native I believe is way more slower, Fury & Feral Rage don't work.
Paladin 7F bp: that's the reason why no benefit from box smite, smite 6F, glitch made it even worse
Zeal: on a pal, so far I haven't find any way to glitch it, but the most important, it's meaningless, BP of Pal is only 7F, even boxing works, 7F << 4F normal Zeal

Whirlwind: works as usual in half boxer (botd + grief 4F)
Zerk/Conc/Bash barb: can break 9F zerk to 6F if u got enough offwp ias. not big benefit cuz 9F zerk is already powerful, 9F berserk destroys A5 Tower 0.48~0.52 sec, 6F needs 0.2~0.25 sec, not that obvious.
Frenzy: so far only skill get big benefit, 3F (not sure if it's actually 2.5F)


You should try double throw and single throw(preferable with maby jmod which can be socet with both ed/ias and ed/dex for glitch :))

I reach 4 frames double throw already with wsm bug. And i think i can reach 3 or 3,5 frames with winged knife + ghost glaive wsm bug. Would be fun to reach even faster :)
The gear i use on double throw atm is:
Ghost glaive + lacerator, valk08 cham, 10fcr/19str/119ar/40life/cr/pr ring, bug belt, gores, 20ias/str/dex/kb/fr gloves, hl, wisp/raven (80 offhand ias, 30ias in lacerator which is main after wsm bug). And enigma

Would also be fun to make a frenzy + double throw hybrid boxer ^^
Lvl x axe mastery and frenzy. Double swing already maxed and syntenergies to both :)

Maby something like my gear, but with swapping bo str wep with javs from cube.

This post was edited by gel87 on Sep 28 2021 01:05am
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Sep 28 2021 01:12am


Oh I almost forgot that skill haha :lol: , haven't play any throw barb yet
what u assume is absolutely nice if the boxer glitch can also join in,
but there's no +str or +dex mod on those unique throwing wps right? I know they can't get socketed,
I think we may need +str or dex mod godly rares to try it, lmk if u can edit any...

I also came out an idea, and another question, need ur help cuz I'm newbie and dumb on pvp aspect:

1. do u think the teleport 7F berserk barb can be used in BvC duel? (it got grief, @res, fcr, faster fps etc)

2. my idea is 6F impaler zon.
Is Impale a practical thing in PvP or PvM?
even a Zon use BOTD matriarchal Pike & 150ias off wp ias, only can reach 20FPS, use Matriarchal Javelin 40ias and 180 off-wp ias can reach 12F,
and lvl 25 Impale has 900%ed
60ias Jmod + 60ias Jeweler's + 20ias Gloves + Highlord + 20ias from helm (andy or 30ias jewel'd) >= 180 = 6F native attack, which >> 14F,

This post was edited by Ironboar on Sep 28 2021 01:15am
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