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Dec 27 2018 07:46am
Quote (urfmodeislife @ 27 Dec 2018 14:40)
6x lem swords, a rare belt with 80gf fire resist and life or fhr if you can find, and putting treachery on your merc over wealth will jack your clear speed through the roof.

With a 16+ range leap spam, my merc clears hell trav in approx 1-1 1/2 mins... i perfer enigma for me just to get my merc on the council faster but wealth on your barb provides slightly better overall gold.

Babas r nice for finding rares but rares also slow down your runs due to iding them. Its all about personal preferences i suppose. Just like i prefer lem lem arreats over a gf lem lem lem tiara or cot with a lem on my barb


Treachery alone will not save him. Yes, he attacks much faster, and leeches life faster, but still, he will some times take a lot of damage, especially when recovery locked. And although when fade triggers, he will endure elemental damage better, it does not always trigger in due time, and he still take considerable damage from hydra. I also (think i) wrote i do not use wealth in hell mode. In nightmare, he will kill them so fast anyway, so treachery is not needed there.

I think fortitude is the best option when you can afford it, otherwise kira um + guardian angel makes him endure elemental damage a -lot- better. Just try and you'll see.

I forgot to mention, a teleport amulet may be a good option over enigma. I can see the point with enigma, but it is also very expensive, newbs would certainly not have the capital to invest in that.

Very good last points, never thought of using goldfind tiaras with sockets. Arreat's is a good choice too.



Quote (Alone @ 27 Dec 2018 14:34)
This is much better


There is no need to get pissy because you are too childish to accept a peace offering. I sent you a pm being nothing but nice and taking my sweet time trying to explain extremely thoroughly how people have been acting against me for years, yet you wrote the rudest things and act like a complete child, now adding a quote to your signature. It really shows which one of us needs professional help, like you imposed to me. Pm with total conversation is sent to moderator.

This post was edited by Taurean on Dec 27 2018 07:49am
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Treachery alone will not save him. Yes, he attacks much faster, and leeches life faster, but still, he will some times take a lot of damage, especially when recovery locked. And although when fade triggers, he will endure elemental damage better, it does not always trigger in due time, and he still take considerable damage from hydra. I also (think i) wrote i do not use wealth in hell mode. In nightmare, he will kill them so fast anyway, so treachery is not needed there.

I think fortitude is the best option when you can afford it, otherwise kira um + guardian angel makes him endure elemental damage a -lot- better. Just try and you'll see.

I forgot to mention, a teleport amulet may be a good option over enigma. I can see the point with enigma, but it is also very expensive, newbs would certainly not have the capital to invest in that.

Very good last points, never thought of using goldfind tiaras with sockets. Arreat's is a good choice too.





There is no need to get pissy because you are too childish to accept a peace offering. I sent you a pm being nothing but nice and taking my sweet time trying to explain extremely thoroughly how people have been acting against me for years, yet you wrote the rudest things and act like a complete child, now adding a quote to your signature. It really shows which one of us needs professional help, like you imposed to me. Pm with total conversation is sent to moderator.


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This post was edited by Alone on Dec 27 2018 07:52am
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Quote (Taurean @ Dec 27 2018 07:46am)
Treachery alone will not save him. Yes, he attacks much faster, and leeches life faster, but still, he will some times take a lot of damage, especially when recovery locked. And although when fade triggers, he will endure elemental damage better, it does not always trigger in due time, and he still take considerable damage from hydra. I also (think i) wrote i do not use wealth in hell mode. In nightmare, he will kill them so fast anyway, so treachery is not needed there.

I think fortitude is the best option when you can afford it, otherwise kira um + guardian angel makes him endure elemental damage a -lot- better. Just try and you'll see.

I forgot to mention, a teleport amulet may be a good option over enigma. I can see the point with enigma, but it is also very expensive, newbs would certainly not have the capital to invest in that.

Very good last points, never thought of using goldfind tiaras with sockets. Arreat's is a good choice too.





There is no need to get pissy because you are too childish to accept a peace offering. I sent you a pm being nothing but nice and taking my sweet time trying to explain extremely thoroughly how people have been acting against me for years, yet you wrote the rudest things and act like a complete child, now adding a quote to your signature. It really shows which one of us needs professional help, like you imposed to me. Pm with total conversation is sent to moderator.



If you get leap to over 14 yards you stunlock the council making the gear almost irrelivant as far as survivability. I use leap which pushes the council to the walls hence why i use enigma or an amulet with tele charges, just makes it faster. Treachery provides not just surviability but 50% bonus gold making it still help the goldfinding aspect. The ar bonus of venom procs almost instantly and also helps the clear speed.

With ebotd wp and cot the lifesteal on a merc is high enough to survive almost anything with the exception of when council spawns phys immune which is another reason i personally feel teleport is essential because you can peel your merc off the phys immune instantly and get him killin the other council dudes for almost full clears at a fast time.

Bonehew is also a great super cheap option for starter merc weps

You can also shop amp charge items off anya, malah, halbu, and larzuk. It may take a while but theyre cheap

This post was edited by urfmodeislife on Dec 27 2018 08:04am
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Dec 27 2018 08:16am
Users having your quotes in their signatures is not spam and you reporting every post you come across based on that is not doing you any good, kiddo.
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Dec 27 2018 09:15am
Quote (Taurean @ Dec 27 2018 08:12am)
Again cham rune. Who the hell can afford cham rune out of the bat, just to stick in a helmet??? I've found cham rune only -once- in my entire d2 gaming time.

Eth breath of the dying berserker axes are very difficult to come by too.

12 lem runes can be hard to come by too. And you only use these to hork the corpses? That means you're losing out on 700% extra goldfind on 75% of the run. The weapons are the main source of extra gold %. I'd say 400 000 would be the norm and 1 200 000 would be the very odd run.

I suppose you meant 1wc 40gf GC's * 5. It's hard to come by these, not something you can just pick up.

How much health and resistances you have with this build? Maybe 2000 - 2500 hp, and 0% all resists? I can guarantee you will die at least once in a while, when you meet a nasty pack of members with might, fanaticism and/or conviction. So that would slow down your runs, and also cause demotivation. Isn't the goal to do things as safe and steady as possible?

It may be a novelty or different goldfind barb build, but it is in no way a classic build or something to recommend to a newb, i would say. Uses too many difficult to find items. I'm sure you must have invested at least 2000 fg in it.


If you use leap you don't need more than ~1000 hp because you only get hit by 1 hydra for the entire run and you have 2 dwarf stars

Also if you think the average player has trouble trading for 12 lem runes you really don't have a good grasp of gameplay. People who don't use woefully inefficient builds don't consider lem and Cham to be out of reach

This post was edited by SuperButt420 on Dec 27 2018 09:20am
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Dec 27 2018 09:20am
wealth on a barb isn't a big deal but not using IK helm on a WC skill barb isn't a good idea.

wealth of enigma is a high priced option. i prefer tele charges on a barb ammy with GF tho.

in modern D2 WC build >>>>>> active WW build. with higher restrictions on games/hour. however the point is fairly moot, u fill your barb up in well under 10 games. so unless you're looking to farm gold to sell for FG (a pretty shit investment tbh) it's still up to preference.

as to the leap > wc people, i also prefer war cry. because im lazy and just want to hang out by the durance stairs and wc every few seconds while watching tv. practically Leap is better tho.

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Dec 27 2018 09:27am
Quote (poopnose24 @ 27 Dec 2018 14:16)
Users having your quotes in their signatures is not spam and you reporting every post you come across based on that is not doing you any good, kiddo.


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Invalid post specified, or post already reported.




Taurean, are you actually reporting every single post in all of your topics?
That's just sad buddy


Until people start to behave normally, i will do that, yes.


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Again cham rune. Who the hell can afford cham rune out of the bat, just to stick in a helmet??? I've found cham rune only -once- in my entire d2 gaming time.

Eth breath of the dying berserker axes are very difficult to come by too.

12 lem runes can be hard to come by too. And you only use these to hork the corpses? That means you're losing out on 700% extra goldfind on 75% of the run. The weapons are the main source of extra gold %. I'd say 400 000 would be the norm and 1 200 000 would be the very odd run.

I suppose you meant 1wc 40gf GC's * 5. It's hard to come by these, not something you can just pick up.

How much health and resistances you have with this build? Maybe 2000 - 2500 hp, and 0% all resists? I can guarantee you will die at least once in a while, when you meet a nasty pack of members with might, fanaticism and/or conviction. So that would slow down your runs, and also cause demotivation. Isn't the goal to do things as safe and steady as possible?

It may be a novelty or different goldfind barb build, but it is in no way a classic build or something to recommend to a newb, i would say. Uses too many difficult to find items. I'm sure you must have invested at least 2000 fg in it.


I said it was my gf baba, i kinda dont need to hork coinz at either ladder or hardcore. I got good res, full res in hell :) or nearly full res, Yes 1, 2mill is very rare, its usually between 450-700k

I also did not say ur build was bad, i Just said i have a careface holdbaba and just wirl around to get some coinz to pvp with :) i know the merc Based ones harvest more gold each run.
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Dec 27 2018 09:29am
Well if i had to say something positive about Tauren's build, at least there is no way to get r/d or some temp ban with that build bcoz there is not any mobility skill like teleport charges or enigma suggested, so one Travi run takes like 15-20 mins.

e: Merc hits what ever he wants, if you get lucky he target to right mob.

This post was edited by TR0LLFACE on Dec 27 2018 09:30am
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Dec 27 2018 09:34am
Quote (TR0LLFACE @ Dec 27 2018 10:29am)
Well if i had to say something positive about Tauren's build, at least there is no way to get r/d or some temp ban with that build bcoz there is not any mobility skill like teleport charges or enigma suggested, so one Travi run takes like 15-20 mins.

e: Merc hits what ever he wants, if you get lucky he target to right mob.


You can tell his build has been successful because he thinks lem runes are too expensive
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