Quote (The Rain @ Thu, Feb 1 2007, 11:13am)
Quote (Mischa @ Thu, 1 Feb 2007, 14:07)
lol? you're making a fool out of yourself, atleast, @ people who really know about pvm
we're talking about overall mf, and try getting to nihla with a 6ist sword and a 4 ist monarch.. ^^
hdin = crap when not 125fcr
you can have 7mf scs.. say, 20 of those. that's 140 mf there. lvl 90 and enigma = 230 mf + shako ist = 310 mf
+ wizzy ist = 340 mf + gheeds 40 mf or whatever is the max = 380 mf + wts = 430 mf + amulet with say, 30 mf = 460 mf + rings with mf (40 each or 10 fcr ones with 30 mf) = 520 or 500 mf.
I'd say that's plenty and you still get to keep your precious 125 fcr.
You could also have switch with 6 ist sword and 4 ist pally shield just for to kill mobs.
You're seriously telling me that your pathetic zerkbarb can overcome simple hammerdin in mf or in speed of kills?
also, 75 fcr on hammerdin is plenty for pvm.
Like I said, grow some brains.
Okay, lets get this straight:
1) This is Pure Mfer That Can Kill Effectively
This is for certain.2) If I was to say have a Speed Diablo Killing Competition against a PvM Hammerdin with 300% mf I would use my Demonbasher Berserker Barb and whipe the floor with him.
3) Now you are telling me that you can play this game for 2years straight with your hammerdin mf'ing and not use another single char?
Note: I have been playing this game for over 5years, (2 years straight, break 3months, 3.5 years solid now and still going)
4) if i wanted to have a Killing/Mf Competition with a Hammerdin, I would use my Javazon (Maxed Synergies to light fury and Charged Strike, Infinity merc) & she has 300% mf. She would win this as well
e.g. who can clear baal minions and baal fastest (note: based on what you were talking about earlier 4x faster killing speed compared to 2x = faster mf'ing.
5) This is a guide created for people with half a brain, that knows for a fact that with more mf%, that the chances of an elite item (white) dropping, has a greater chance of being Blue, Yellow, Gold or Green than having a low mf%, AND note that this guy can join any full game, not have to kill and hork bods for drops.
Hammerdin can not HORK BODS6) This Guide is created for people that want More or Less mf, they can change items around to fit within their mf% preference.
7)
QUESTION: Would you ridicule a GoldFind Barb that can not kill?
if the answer is No, then why do it to an MfBarb that
CAN KILL?RainYou have your opinions, and that is your right, but remember
ONE THINGNOT EVERYONE THINKS LIKE YOUwell, your mfzon will _only_ kill faster with infinity merc. and still hammerdin would clear say, cs, much faster.
I never said that I would or have played this game for 2 years straight with single char, but hdin is the only char capable of killing monsters with decent mf but garbage items (other is summoner)
Anyway, this argument was that barb used for mf = slow. I only said that hammerdin would be much, much more faster. Even you can't say otherwise.
I always say that thinking out of the box is great, but when you claim that it does better than some "cookie-cutter" builds, I find it a must to correct.