Quote (quicksand @ Jul 25 2011 12:40pm)

Im not talking about barbs.Its hard to impossible to beat a good one.

But...as u know (or do you ? ) 2 20 30 2 sockets circlets dont exactly grow in trees.And yeah , i value the 400 hp from Jah'd Shako more than the damage from gulli face.

Dont get me wrong.Its a great guide , i just dont like that gulli face as an option.

Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 25 2011 12:47pm)

of course, i always consider option before replying with criticism.

i suppose shako is an option for the poorer man, but even so, i'd put a 40/15 in that shako over the jah. the 40/15 lets u keep ur 9frames trap after being hit once by arach and adds a nice boost to ww damage from both claws.

i dunno... the ENTIRE reason i have the 42FCR setup is designed to kill (most) barbs and ghost v ghost. if it werent for them... i'd use a 2sin/20fcr/life/2soc circlet (they're not THAT hard to find) over the jah shako 99% of the time (minus vs traps and such) simply due to its flexibility. besides those 2 match ups, when would you ever use 42fcr over 65?

Quote (Skibum @ Jul 25 2011 01:09pm)

i wouldn't but if you don't tele much there isn't really too much of a need.  I guess barba, and dins come to mind for 42 fcr though I always use 65.  Since both bps tele on the 7th frame, as long as you have blade shield up and shadow warrior and/or traps when you stomp you wont notice a difference really. Consecutive teles though you'll start to notice the lag between casting.

Quote (tudey @ Jul 25 2011 03:59pm)

its kinda sily to compare lvl 99 vs lvl 92 stats when you are talking about guides and not just characters

Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 25 2011 01:16pm)

against dins on a ghost i tend to rely heavily on mindblast to wound them and prevent them from sneaking up to me with a stomp. i must note that the majority of hdins are trash and will not need this treatment, but against the good vts, hdins and the like, a higher fcr = faster mindblasts which over the course of time will not only keep them away, but act as a decent way to deal damage.

then when they come close, you can ww for more damage.

ps? what kinda of ghost doesnt tele much.... ghosts are one of the most offensive characters in the game and require you to litereally chase down most opponents to put them in stuck lock and get the kill. no ones just gonna walk into ur lvl 1 traps for you. 65fcr should me minimal ALL of the time, except vs some barbs and in ghost v ghost (where being fast wont make you the winner, but hitting harder helps more).

Quote (summerfun @ Jul 25 2011 07:16am)

Now, if i could just get the claws.

Quote (duke_fann @ Jul 25 2011 02:07pm)

Talk to Domain Perish on the gvg ladder, he uses/used regular chaos/fury setups and hes are good.

Great guide bud