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Jan 3 2007 08:19pm
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so i made this exact build lol smile.gif
extreamly tough to hit max blockers..
and zons...
anything that ww's..
a smiters charge>u when they have max block. some when dont..
why so hard to hit.. im thinking edc and pheonix is much better for this..


slow+kb zons = trouble for sure but some you can take down... and wwer's definitely are your toughest duel. give edc+phoenix a shot (though you'll lose max block when you charge). im gonna try liberator (hammers/charge) to deal with ww'ers, ill let you know how it goes.
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what if i went shield/weapon build.. whats best 4 charger


grief no competition. anyone claming otherwise is a complete moron. switch shields between phoenix/exile/zaka depending on who you duel.


could u just explain why, in ure opinion, grief > death bah ?
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what if i went shield/weapon build.. whats best 4 charger


grief no competition. anyone claming otherwise is a complete moron. switch shields between phoenix/exile/zaka depending on who you duel.


could u just explain why, in ure opinion, grief > death bah ?


just for everyone wondering, i ran the numbers on a single player build for the following axes:

grief zerk: 11157-12410 (70ish% chance of ds at 90's) (22314-24820 if you ds)
death 4809-14023 and after 100%ds -> 9618-28046

*assumptions: 400% phoenix shield, max block, max dmg on axes: grief(+400)/death(385%).

for 1hand, id stick with grief. the average dmg is pretty nice.

just to compare to 2hand death decapitator:
(100%ds) :: 16836-46670

to summarize, if 1hand, go +400 grief, if 2hand, go high ed death decap.

that grief smite/charge hybrid you guys were talking about isnt looking too shabby after seeing these figures.

oh and thanks for all the positive comments heart.gif
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Quote (Torondhor @ Thu, Jan 4 2007, 03:09am)
Quote (GIFF @ Wed, Jan 3 2007, 05:48pm)
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what if i went shield/weapon build.. whats best 4 charger


grief no competition. anyone claming otherwise is a complete moron. switch shields between phoenix/exile/zaka depending on who you duel.


could u just explain why, in ure opinion, grief > death bah ?


it's no opinion, it's fact. grief does more damage than any other 1-hander and your smite wont suck either.
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Quote (Torondhor @ Thu, Jan 4 2007, 03:09am)
Quote (GIFF @ Wed, Jan 3 2007, 05:48pm)
Quote (Reveng3 @ Wed, Jan 3 2007, 05:22pm)
what if i went shield/weapon build.. whats best 4 charger


grief no competition. anyone claming otherwise is a complete moron. switch shields between phoenix/exile/zaka depending on who you duel.


could u just explain why, in ure opinion, grief > death bah ?


just for everyone wondering, i ran the numbers on a single player build for the following axes:

grief zerk: 11157-12410 (70ish% chance of ds at 90's) (22314-24820 if you ds)
death 4809-14023 and after 100%ds -> 9618-28046

*assumptions: 400% phoenix shield, max block, max dmg on axes: grief(+400)/death(385%).

for 1hand, id stick with grief. the average dmg is pretty nice.

just to compare to 2hand death decapitator:
(100%ds) :: 16836-46670

to summarize, if 1hand, go +400 grief, if 2hand, go high ed death decap.

that grief smite/charge hybrid you guys were talking about isnt looking too shabby after seeing these figures.

oh and thanks for all the positive comments heart.gif


have you played much with botd warpike? slightly lower average damage than death but range 5 and possibility of ~80k dmg hits with deadly strike sounds nice to me. range 5 desynch charger is pretty annoying to duel btw ^^
and grief charge/smite works wonders + you can equip twohander when needed.
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I made one following this guide, and i must say that the gc/sc max dmg ar dosnt give so much dmg, but the ar is exxential along life..
Ty very much for this guide, i got much fun 1 hitting hammers..
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Jan 9 2007 04:23pm
if im gonna use hoz , should i just make a smiter???

or should i still try chrg/smite hybrid
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Jan 14 2007 09:17pm
How would you point a smite/charge hybrid exactly? Great guide btw.
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for those intereste in smite/charge hybrid, i made one. i had a lot of success with this build and it addresses a lot of the limitations of pure charge 2hand. i kill barbs more often (walk, smite w/ shift as they whirl through you. you'll take out most bvc's if theyre dumb) and fc javas have become pathetically easy. fair warning, the build is highly bad mannered, but who really cares? heres the gear:

nonlegit
15dr coa w/ 15res/15req jewels
highlord
high +dmg grief zerk/pb (mine hit last smite bp but yours might not - check it via speed calc)
btals w/ ber
uppd hoz w/ um
dracs
ravens x2 (sorb hah)
tgods belt (sorb again)
gores

legit (loses out to nonlegit on sorb/stack res, still quite effective)
15dr coa w/ res/reqs
coh
highlord
grief zerk
hoz w/ ber
15% dungo
raven x2 or raven/wisp
dracs
gores

the build kicks ass. doesnt really need any str. hoz's block req is so low that points wasted on dex are minimal too, meaning that you get 500+ in vitality easily.

skills
max fanat
max holy shield
max smite
max charge
max vigor or might (i chose vigor for ease of movement in town)

remember: you're a SMITER with a strong charge..... DONT play it like a pure charger.
smite vs zons (always!), charge tele sorcs then smite em if they dont tele away, smite barbs while walking to maintain block, smite smiters (err), charge hammerdins (will take 2+ hits), charge then smite asns, charge then smite windies... pretty mindless and pretty effective.
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