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Jan 29 2011 03:08pm
The srs answers here are lulz.
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Quote (Bryant @ 29 Jan 2011 23:08)
The srs answers here are lulz.


? srs topiq
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? srs topiq


Nooben IRL.
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? srs topiq


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From now on every post not including the rating 10/10 will be reported directly to Paparick.

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Quote (Jumbojeebs @ 29 Jan 2011 20:25)
Let me list few of "massive fails" in this guide you tool (yes, this made me read and point out the fails):

- "What most people do not know is how Strength works in building damage. Unlike “Grief”, which is not affected by Damage Multipliers in any way"  Wrong. The +400dmg from grief works just as +400 to min and +400 to max dmg (+400 dmg grief in nonsuperior base will make 424 to 471 dmg) and is affected by ALL dmg modifiers!

- "Shield: 1.08 Stormshield socketed with “Eld” Rune"  way too much strength, not worth it.

- "Belt: 24% Faster Hit Recovery | 10% Chance of Open Wounds | + to Strength | + to Life Crafted Belt"  has very limited use on a bvc.

- "Greaves: War Travelers"  Goreriders. Superior to WTS on a barb in EVERY POSSIBLE WAY!

- " Steelrend Ogre Gauntlets"  25% ow> that tiny dmg from steels (only barb which should use steels are bvb barbs)

- "Ring I: 10% Faster Cast Rate | 110+ to Attack Rating | +20 to Strength | 35+ to Life | 25+ Mana | Resists"  most important mod on a bvc ring is MANA! Stop pretending that you knew something about BvC is you rate life/str over mana on a bvc ring, you tool.

- You dont have max dr setup without to use storm.

- Your mana is way too low!

- You havent listed angelic amu+2rings as an option which is fail per se.

- Your math is flawed - scs>gcs on a bvc.

- "HUGE HELPFUL HINT #1: Do not fucking chase Casters around all day. All you do is frustrate yourself, deplete mana and run into damage. You are a Melee Combat character versus a Ranged Combat character. This means wherever you go that Caster must follow you to a certain extent to deal damage to your Barbarian. This is the time you wait to achieve South Side or Leap locks to stomp your victim. Basically, wait until that player follows you into a trap or lands a bad teleport and then strike."  this bullshit really made me laugh. What are you going to do vs fb sorcs or bonemancers, which wont come on your map? Nothing? Tought so....

- "Try to keep your Whirlwind hotkeyed to the left side of your skill equip and keep Teleport on your right side. This will allow you to perform short Whirlwinds or as people have come to call it “Triangle WW”."  this is also nothing but a bullshit. Its all matter of preference, where you use what skill.

- " Try to identify when a player is using sufficient Damage Reduction e.g. 40%+. If a player is using heavy Damage reduction you may want to switch to relying on Open Wounds as you can hit them and back off as they continue to take damage. I find this extremely effective versus many characters."  what ow? You do NOT list dracs, nor gores. Or do you intend to use toothrow, since your failbuild will have enough str to wear it actually?


Your strategies are nothing but a bullshit. You wont do anything vs any halfdecent caster (besides you absorb the elemental dmg dealing ones.... woohoo, thats what every retard can do.
Pretty much every HALFdecent pvp char will shit on this barb
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there's another massive fail

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there's another massive fail


Joined: Jan 6 2008 > Joined: Oct 7 2010

or do you claim otherwise?
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Jan 29 2011 03:16pm
elaborate the kicker part plz, im curious how it can take 8k life in <10 secs
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Quote (Xenojaeger @ Jan 29 2011 03:34pm)
then explain me why people rarely used foh as stun effect on hammer back in the days?

now its common as fuck since people are just running the mainstream

thats just one example...


It's not near as common as every other CC build..but there's a reason why people use pretty much the same build regardless of char (sin/nec/dru/pal) it's because they work the best.

To say that the 'pvp scene' or builds in general have changed is idiotic.
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Quote (IgoSoHard @ Jan 29 2011 09:29pm)
It's not near as common as every other CC build..but there's a reason why people use pretty much the same build regardless of char (sin/nec/dru/pal) it's because they work the best.

To say that the 'pvp scene' or builds in general have changed is idiotic.


ohh but they did
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Jan 29 2011 04:22pm
Well written, interesting guide, but I think it lacks some practicality.

Quote (tudey @ Jan 29 2011 03:54pm)

Mana: 508 (No Pre-Buffing except B/O Sticks)


This is too little mana.

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1x +6 to Battle Orders +6 to Shout Helmet (This is what I use. You may have something different because you are dumb as hell and care about a Blue or Red Color versus getting better stats. I also am pretty lazy so I do not Pre-Buff with this Helmet too often.)
2x 451 Poison Damage Small Charm


Give me that BO helm if it's on USEast. 2x451 is bm on east.


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*Belt:
This belt is simply an Amazing option. There are two belts the standard shitty BvC build uses, Verdungoes and Arachnid Mesh. Now you can feel free to use either of these belts, but if there is nothing causing you to use these belts e.g. Dungoes will be more effective than any other belt vs. a Smiter or Hybrid Amazon, than why not increase your damage, life and Open Wounds as well as FHR. What 99.9% of people in this game do not know is any item that adds vitality does not get affected by Battle Orders. So Dungoes which adds 40 Vitality adds 120 Life and nothing more where as my belt which has 72 Life adds 182 Life. If you are a player that wishes to use 37% FCR versus 20% FCR, then feel free to use Arachnids Mesh but honestly if you need 37% FCR you are playing a BvC wrong.


Made me giggle. You can't catch good necs / sins / sorcs with 20 FCR.


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Assassin:
This is by far the easiest match up of the casters. Ghost, Hybrid or Trapsin – it does not matter. They all get crushed by this build for one reason and one reason only – you do too much fucking damage. The main thing I do here is have Leap Attack (not Leap) ready for hotkeys so you can Leap Attack out of their trap fields. Once you do this just Whirlwind away because they will always name lock you and Teleport back on top of you thinking they will have you locked again. Wrong, they die and it is funny. If you play someone smart then simply try to move from South Side onto the enemy and use those Triangle Whirlwinds to lock them in place. You will make quick work of any Assassin. Just don’t go chasing them all day. It is just too easy. Oh, and if you run into a Kicker, they can actually dominate a Dual Wielding Barbarian. It is actually pretty funny how fast they wreck Dual Wielders. I made a Kicksin that took my friends 8.6k life Barbarian out in less than 10 seconds because he did no damage so I stood there and just beat the fuck out of him. If you fight a good Kicker, go toss on that Max Block under the Amazon section and beat their ass.


How incredibly wrong. Good trappers (especially w/s) are probably one of your hardest match ups. Good luck with 20 FCR. :rofl:




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