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Oh, true. I guess I've forgotten about that when trying to reach SS req without caring for anymore +Str from that point.

However, +25Dex cannot be matched vs 15Dex/65HP, as was aforementioned.
There is also a lack of MF or resistance, hence the only 3 competent boots are WT, WW and AA.


30 fhr it 2,5 light gc 12fhr... too... it how meni life?
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for rest res no coh ony eni res from scs life resis scs ofc....
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Shako
Maras
Hoto
Coh
Storm
Mages
Arach
Raven
Rare 10fcr
TG
Hotspur
Cta 6+bo + rand spirit

merc
andy face
eth forty
infinity

Whatever you miss in fhr you make up for in charms, sockets.

Happy botting, lvl 95 light sorc. nn ES for pvm, manaburn>You

This post was edited by MadikkenX on Dec 23 2010 02:19pm
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Quote (Synonym @ Dec 23 2010 02:44pm)
Oh, true. I guess I've forgotten about that when trying to reach SS req without caring for anymore +Str from that point.

However, +25Dex cannot be matched vs 15Dex/65HP, as was aforementioned.
There is also a lack of MF or resistance, hence the only 3 competent boots are WT, WW and AA.


I have to agree with angeloamc here, imo I'd take 30 fhr and 25 dex on a pvm char rather than 15 dex and 65 life.. More life is good yes, but as I stressed in my initial post, I still feel that hitting the 86 fhr breakpoint is worth losing out a couple hundred hp..
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Quote (MadikkenX @ Dec 23 2010 11:19pm)
Shako
Maras
Hoto
Coh
Storm
Mages
Arach
Raven
Rare 10fcr
TG
Hotspur
Cta 6+bo + rand spirit

merc
andy face
eth forty
infinity

Whatever you miss in fhr you make up for in charms, sockets.

Happy botting, lvl 95 light sorc. nn ES for pvm, manaburn>You


The level is 94, and I despise botting in every way and form.
This is an HC discussion.
However, thank you for your input.

Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Dec 23 2010 11:31pm)
I have to agree with angeloamc here, imo I'd take 30 fhr and 25 dex on a pvm char rather than 15 dex and 65 life.. More life is good yes, but as I stressed in my initial post, I still feel that hitting the 86 fhr breakpoint is worth losing out a couple hundred hp..


Hmm, debatable, but what of MF? It is in the bottom of the requirements list, but still a factor to consider.
Without WT, I'd be below 100%, which is not my mark.
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Dec 23 2010 03:02pm
6-32k damage
maxblock
1933 life
75 res
42 fhr
117 fcr
130 mf
13 mdr
23 %DR

Griffon 7 fhr 15 res jool
Viper 13 mdr Ber
Dungo 15 dr
Cg 40
Wt 50
Hoto
2/12/stat/res amu
Soj
fcr/mana/res ring
Whistan Eld

Gheed
3* 12 fhr skiller
3* 15 life skiller
8* 20 life scs

Replacing Eld rune in Whistan with Ber = 31% Dr... only 4 less than with SS build.
You could replace the 7/15 jewel in Griffon for whatever you like and just swap 2 scs for fhr or fhr/res scs.
And this build is imo really cheap.
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Hmm, debatable, but what of MF? It is in the bottom of the requirements list, but still a factor to consider.
Without WT, I'd be below 100%, which is not my mark.


Gheeds + 7 mf scs in inventory
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Quote (Oggy_xP @ Dec 24 2010 12:02am)
6-32k damage
maxblock
1933 life
75 res
42 fhr
117 fcr
130 mf
13 mdr
23 %DR

Griffon 7 fhr 15 res jool
Viper 13 mdr Ber
Dungo 15 dr
Cg 40
Wt 50
Hoto
2/12/stat/res amu
Soj
fcr/mana/res ring
Whistan Eld

Gheed
3* 12 fhr skiller
3* 15 life skiller
8* 20 life scs

Replacing Eld rune in Whistan with Ber = 31% Dr... only 4 less than with SS build.
You could replace the 7/15 jewel in Griffon for whatever you like and just swap 2 scs for fhr or fhr/res scs.
And this build is imo really cheap.


Good setup, with 1 flaw: Inventory space.
And for further intrigue on my part: How about a Shael rune in Griffon's Eye, thus removing several FHR requirements from skillers?
That could work. I'll have to think about it.

Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Dec 24 2010 12:07am)
Gheeds + 7 mf scs in inventory


How many MF small charms will be required? 20+? There is still the inventory matter. I'm looking for at least 4 columns free.
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Dec 23 2010 03:14pm
Being a HC PvM'r, I will give my input when I get a chance.

I never read the entire thread, I just saw a bunch of builds not suggesting any form of lit sorb
This will inevitably lead to your death, especially with the 16xx life builds after bo.

If you choose no lit sorb, you will need much more life.
I hope ES was never mentioned, ES = PvM death

Since this build is about max block, why not use a Gerkes?
Offers res, increased block, pdr, mdr.

Since max block, you really don't need DR tooooo bad, especially if you get alot of MDR/PDR
This in combo with vmage works nicely.


I'll come back from work later and offer my suggestion on a build

I prioritize it like this;
Max block (because that's what this whole discussion is about)
117% fcr
res (with lit sorb)
dr / pdr/mdr
Damage
mf
Fhr


Hope my input helps
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Dec 23 2010 03:17pm
Gerke's is indeed something I didn't give a chance to think about.
Thank you for your input.
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