I said replace max/ar/life charms with life/resist charms IF you think you need it. I personally think it's okay with a little lower cold res since, as I also said, the knight's cold-dmg is pretty low.

I know this comment is quiet useless but i ll bring it..

Plz guys ( not saying names)
Before you post read the answers mass gives you... And try to understand them and donīt say now in case of your principles. Oo

Mass plays this char since 2 years Oo.. he had around ~20 barbs since i know him.. And he knows all..
He doesnīt give anything for beeing known or something.. I convinced him to post this guide, so you guys know how it works.

The Berserk Barbs which are posted are 1. not nearly as good as this is and 2. are not for the task this is for.
If you talk about tron cleaning, gz.. we donīt care- its called CS-barb ..
And only for the reason you posted first.. you havenīt been the first one So donīt call it immitation.
If you know the meaning of it.

And donīt say we are making your option down. We are just correcting them, try the things mass said and you will understand and see WHY !

If you got questions just go on like SpiX or little - ty for that

This post was edited by QuQu on Nov 15 2006 05:41am

I don't doubt you guys know what you're talking about, at least in most cases
A good thing with a guide is that it can be discussed in developing purpose, which is what I've been trying to do.
Now I've told you my thoughts, got nothing more to say. Good luck with your barbs.
Nice guide btw.

will you get enough AR whitout max ar life scs ?
when use:
arreats, storm, fc ring, hotspur, torch, anni ect ect..

can i go whit 20lifer's whit small mod's like a few res ect ? or? and.. how about metalgrid? good ar% and sweet res, when get lower res on you?

EDIT:

well for merc... does might add good dmg to berserk? cuz then maybe a act2 merc whit shity dmg and holy freeze ?

This post was edited by little on Nov 15 2006 10:15am

well..
1.act2 merc will die on im .. even with low dmg wheapon.
2. its possible to do it without max ar lf scs yes but i would take clean wc skiller then its even cheaper and gets same lf amount. (make sure you got atleast some max ar scs under the skiller with crap mods and 1xx on your fc ring)
3. i wouldnīt take metalgrid .. mass had some reason for that but canīt remember will ask him.
`But you loose 2 skill so serafins and that one gives nice dmg boost too.

any more questions?

ehm... well atm i got:
storm soc imo very nice jewel ( whit 7fhr )
clean arreats ( will soc it 40ed+max dmg jewel )
spirit monarch 35fc 111mana 6abs
arrach 111ed
hoto 38@ (had it anyway so...^^)
fc ring ( not 1xx ar :/ will get one )
raven 20dex 24x ar

still need:
gloves(easy)
seph(easy?)
some ok middle life wc sks( like 3hr each? )
and some scs... well not sure can i get enough for ~15hr 30 ist? ( THE BIG QUESTION! )


EDIT: i got a cs merc whit, coh+gaze+phoenix+lawbringer from my hammer guess it works too

This post was edited by little on Nov 15 2006 10:51am

should work in case of merc.. but take storm instead of phoenix.. better for barb i think.. ( coz of bo)
i donīt really know.. those scs are from ist - xx hrs but if you get crap adds its izi
and wcs clean are cheaper.. with little life cheap , too
but check price guide for that ( new one from balakei )

Can not be bothered with quoting you other statements.

First thing to point out, my barb does not pot (lol) no need
Second thing I have been playing since 1.08 through to 1.11
Third I always do full cs runs, i personally have been making games for ppl to join
forth; I am not worried about Lord De Lois (how ever spelt) in chaos, there is nothing to fear
fifth; Berserk Skill will let you block auto when using a shield (which can cause blocklock)
sixth; i only use 2x 3/20/20 sc's compared to your 21 and i run Cs in the same amount of time (man your barb is weak)
7th; who really cares for 105fcr compared to 80%fcr (i mean geez only a little bit of frames)


go back and actually have a proper look at my guide, it refers to blocklock which is also another factor you did not see, you will see also that i have 136dexterity because of Phase blade.

As for the person vouching you, i do not disregard it, but try playing ladder and starting without crap and build what I have, not a super 21 x 3/20/20 sc's

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Nov 15 2006 12:43pm

We can see if your fast as him
pm me for it.. i ll take time you need

And if you would read carefully you would see, that there are 2 possiblities... 1 for the rich guys and a secound for the poorer once ..

ehm mate i think he is uswest...^^