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#41
Nov 7 2006 09:55am
Quote (forbattlenet @ Tue, Nov 7 2006, 03:43pm)
But w/o Angelics I only have like 5k ar... sad.gif

I only tested on a hammerdin who had max dr and max block. w/o Angelics it took me like 10-20 hits to even hit him!

With angelics I hit him 1 time every 5-10 hits.

I can see how it wouldnt matter against like... Sorcs and necros or whatever, but vs max block I dont see how you wuold beat a hammerdin that you can hardly hit!?

5k ar just is not enough... sad.gif

I guess I absolutely have to change my 20 lifers, for 20 life + ar.

Oh, and vs necros!!? If your East SCL, I'll duel you to show you thats simply not true. I dont even have max block on my necro, and I can tank most bvc's.


only time u should use angelic is vs palies

or use 30+ 32020s + chant

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#42
Nov 7 2006 09:57am
Quote (forbattlenet @ Tue, Nov 7 2006, 03:43pm)
But w/o Angelics I only have like 5k ar... sad.gif

I only tested on a hammerdin who had max dr and max block. w/o Angelics it took me like 10-20 hits to even hit him!

With angelics I hit him 1 time every 5-10 hits.

I can see how it wouldnt matter against like... Sorcs and necros or whatever, but vs max block I dont see how you wuold beat a hammerdin that you can hardly hit!?

5k ar just is not enough... sad.gif

I guess I absolutely have to change my 20 lifers, for 20 life + ar.

Oh, and vs necros!!? If your East SCL, I'll duel you to show you thats simply not true. I dont even have max block on my necro, and I can tank most bvc's.


block and dr are in no way related to attack rating sorry.
necs without block rarely need more than one ww and never more than two. no nec whatsoever comes even close to tanking non-retarded barbs, it doesn't matter if you have 4k life and maxblock+dr.
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#43
Nov 7 2006 02:43pm
Are you east? If so give me a day to gear my necro and Ill prove you wrong?

Some barbs can beat my necro but not very many.

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#44
Nov 7 2006 03:58pm
5k~ AR is sufficient to hit pretty much any of your normal targets. Necros with max block still don't need extra AR. It should be somewhat obvious that high defense pallys require more AR, so angelics/hsarus is needed.

In my experience any nec, even a max block nec, generally dies when trying to tank multiple small WWs. For some reason it's like block just stops working.
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#45
Nov 8 2006 06:17am
Quote (forbattlenet @ Tue, Nov 7 2006, 08:43pm)
Are you east? If so give me a day to gear my necro and Ill prove you wrong?

Some barbs can beat my necro but not very many.


care? talk all you want but fact is that you dont even know how the hell def/block/ar/dr works. it's painfully obvious that you never dueled a barb that doesn't make retarded half-screen whirls.
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#46
Nov 8 2006 06:21am
Quote (De4dEyE @ Tue, Nov 7 2006, 09:58pm)
5k~ AR is sufficient to hit pretty much any of your normal targets. Necros with max block still don't need extra AR. It should be somewhat obvious that high defense pallys require more AR, so angelics/hsarus is needed.

In my experience any nec, even a max block nec, generally dies when trying to tank multiple small WWs. For some reason it's like block just stops working.


block/hit-lock prevents them from finishing any cast-animation. sometimes it looks like they cast spirits but server-side they dont and barb takes no damage. i find good barbs extremely annoying to duel with my blocknec, as soon as they catch me i'm pretty much stuck, and unless i get lucky (barb screws up ww or make shitty hit-rolls so i can get away) i'm dead in no time.
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#47
Nov 8 2006 01:55pm
What would your thoughts be on a 3+bo cta berserker axe (lol) and a doom zerk for switch? Cta has 40 ias in the case you do need to whirl... and then the doom in the other slot for the aura when needed. You loose the stacked aura and -cold res, not to mention doom has better ed than a cta zerk, but you can still keep +6 bo with a doom on switch ohmy.gif. Just somethin I thought of after reading another thread, i don't know how moronic that might be.
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#48
Nov 8 2006 02:02pm
right now i like 2x dooms, but i usualy use 2x hotos just for the fcr sometimes.
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#49
Nov 8 2006 02:07pm
Quote (Camden @ Wed, Nov 8 2006, 07:55pm)
What would your thoughts be on a 3+bo cta berserker axe (lol) and a
doom zerk for switch? Cta has 40 ias in the case you do need to
whirl... and then the doom in the other slot for the aura when needed.
You loose the stacked aura and -cold res, not to mention doom has
better ed than a cta zerk, but you can still keep +6 bo with a doom on
switch:o. Just somethin I thought of after reading another thread, i don't know how moronic that might be.


I have the feeling that the aura span outweighs the +1 bo. I love the idea though, a cta berserker axe, haha, you lunatic ^^
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Nov 8 2006 02:12pm
Quote (Camden @ Wed, Nov 8 2006, 07:55pm)
What would your thoughts be on a 3+bo cta berserker axe (lol) and a doom zerk for switch? Cta has 40 ias in the case you do need to whirl... and then the doom in the other slot for the aura when needed. You loose the stacked aura and -cold res, not to mention doom has better ed than a cta zerk, but you can still keep +6 bo with a doom on switch ohmy.gif. Just somethin I thought of after reading another thread, i don't know how moronic that might be.


aura kinda loses point with only 1 doom. however cta zerk + magic zerker with +3 bo and lifetap charges would be fucking awesome ^^
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